Brussels: crew OK after Kalitta 747 breakes up in 3 pieces after runway overrun...
 

Okay,

No heavy casualties. Five POB on board, four lightly injured according to
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redac...zaventem_crash .
Click on the image for footage.

More info, see
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=328328
and
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7419280.stm .

Kalitta splits in two
 

Cargo plane from Mich carrier crashes at Brussels airport

Associated Press - May 25, 2008 9:54 AM ET

BRUSSELS, Belgium (AP) - Authorities say a large cargo plane from a Michigan-based carrier crashed at the end of a runway and split in two while trying to take off today at Brussels airport.

Francis Vermeiren, mayor of the nearby town of Zaventem, says 4 of the five crew members on board the Boeing 747 were slightly injured. The mayor was coordinating rescue efforts after the crash.

He says the plane was on a scheduled flight to Bahrain. It was not known what cargo the plane was carrying.

The plane came to a halt at the end of a runway, near houses and a cemetery.

The plane is owned by Kalitta Air, a cargo carrier based at Willow Run Airport near Ypsilanti (Michigan).

brakes up?

I think you will find it was carrying United States Post for troops in Iraq
It looks nasty. Wish a quick recovery to all involved

Diplomatic cargo...
 

An interesting airline indeed, closely assocated with Uncle Sam's activities in troubled places. I wonder what is going on around the wreck and what the rescue crews should not find.:confused:

Quote: kaaremi Diplomatic cargo...
An interesting airline indeed, closely assocated with Uncle Sam's activities in troubled places. I wonder what is going on around the wreck and what the rescue crews should not find.
Earl
I think that any time someone carries mail for the US postal service or maybe supplies for the US consulate it is considered Diplomatic.
Remember there is a US Navy detachment in Bahrain so this type of cargo is probably normal and everyday.
Sorry guys don't think you will find a conspiracy here.
Good that the crew are OK.

A pic

http://www.deredactie.be/polopoly_fs.../487399522.jpg

http://www.deredactie.be/polopoly_fs.../487399522.jpg

US CRAF Carriers
 

Please don`t go into one out Uncle Sam & Military Cargo. All US Carriers cargo as well as pax are in the CRAF programme. Kalitta, Polar, DHL, Fed Ex, UPS, Evergreen all fly for Uncle Sam and Military Cargo. Nothing unusual. If the UK had a commercial freight carrier, they also would be working for the MoD......problem being there are none left......apart from DHL & GSS.....go figure. :bored:

Nothing. I've done that run for DHL many times myself. US Mail, some DHL material, and non-hazardous DOD stuff.

Kalitta in
 

Looks like the rear end came to a faster stop than the front end. Body Gear embedding.

But mail (cookies and love letters) is not that heavy or is it?

Oh dear,

Looking at the tail it appears to have split into three!

See http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos....04CK&view=true for more photos.

As you can see at http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6255728 she finally stopped rather close to a railway line...

I would think if the rear came to a stop before the nose section there would be a gap between the two.

Paper can be very heavy.

Well, that will be one less aircraft having to be flown to the desert and parked up, when oil hits $200 +/barrel. it is parked up already.

tThis aircraft N704CK
Was this not the same aircraft which P Bowles was touting around with a coupleof years ago and had it regustered in Banglasdesh at one time ???

Kalita B747
 

Sorry but no it is not the same a/c....
Philip Bowels got hold of the Kalita registered a/c N802KH which he managed to get the Bangladesh authorities to put it on their register as S2 ADT.....
Having sat at Manston for quite some considerable time it was purchased and flew off to Germany to be prepared for a new life in Africa....it never happened and was eventually broken up. Obviously the engines must have been worth more than the airframe but thats life..... At least on this latest incident there were no fatalities, now we must wait to hear what actually went wrong...:ooh:

N704CK photo
 

Nice shot of 704CK on departure from BRU a while back at this link to WorldAirPics.com

http://www.worldairpics.com/photo/1026699/M/

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Thanks for update - just thought for a moment that P Bowles was still haunting the industry !!!

That's funny I could have sworn the last time I saw an MK Airlines 747-200 freighter it was flying under G register.........!!??:confused: Get your facts right "Need To Know Basis"

Kalitta
 

Its just good news all the crew , managed to get out

Sorry to the Kalitta family for losing an aircraft , but !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what happens if the FAA find further fault with the classic and issue another expensive AD notice..death of the 200(s)f and end of the iraq war in one go..

get your used 400f's here..

You might be very right. The classic is on its last legs anyway.

It's probably too soon to speculate but I wonder what caused the crew to reject. If they heard a loud sound, could have been the fuselage breaking apart or something else? From the pictures, a very peliminary observation is that the aircraft broke along the splice lines. If it was structural, how many more of these older classics are there running around with questionable conditions? If the FAA and the NTSB look into this, a lot of carriers could get hurt. Part 26 was created just for this kind of situation, very old aircraft running around with potentially dangerous problems. I am afraid this could start the death knell for the grand old lady.

A little super glue and a lot paint. Connie will have it up and running in no time.

You say it is too soon to speculate yet you continue and speculate on something that really makes no sense. I guess thats due to all the DC-8's, 727's, DC/MD 10's, Md-80's and 74's just falling out of the sky everyday.

Don't get me wrong Junk. I dearly love the "Queen of the Sky" having flown it for many years but age is age and there is no accounting for it.

Kalitta
 

My opinion only , is this was an unfortunate incident whether the Airframe was 28 years young or not , going back to previous post MD-10/11 707, DC-8 etc etc makes no difference ,as long as there is MX and good MX
There should not be a problem

Like i said my opinion

Agreed there. But how many "operators" out there are working on a shoestring. I am not putting Kalitta in that group, but there are a bunch of other 747 operators who are. If, and I say if, the investigations point to age and fatigue, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a of of dictates come down that would be very expensive. I would hate to see that. There is no other like the jumbo and in my book never will be, but alas, all great things must come to an end. Let's hope it isn't the last great three-man bird.

Having flown CKs, I am sure Connie wouldn't put a bad bird in the air and agreed with the previous post. And I am not sure that it was structural failure either. Let's wait for the final results.

Similar thinking prevailed when he tried to operate L1011 freighters...and promptly found out that a Lockheed (and Rollers) simply would not comply....no matter how loud he crowed.

Has there ever been a similar RTO accident that resulted in this kind
of aircraft damage??? I know the LH B747 went backwards down a
ditch, and was repaired, but I can not recall a plane splitting like this
before.

tis' hard to say but... There's always a first for everything. :rolleyes:

That A340 that let loose during the factory test runs didn't fare too well.

Hi guys, I found some amateur footage of the evacuation procedure that particular day...

http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redac...llscreen=false

I sure hope their rejected take-off actions (Thrust,Brakes,Speedbrake,Reverse) were performed a bit faster...:oh:
But no comment there, the crew did a good job.:ok:

Having done the freighter stuff for quite a few years out of Bru myself including the Bah and Dxb routes, I can confirm that Kalitta wasn't/isn't the only carrier with a full load for the US GI's.
The yellow banana's did it aswell.

I'm sure a local Bru operator just started off with 2 74' classics will be interested in some spareparts...;)

Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...

Speaking of that A-340 incident. . . . I had recently heard that it was caused by the ground prox / ground shift cb (or such) being pulled to silence the annoying take off warning horn during it's engine run up test. Doing so put the aircraft into flight mode, releasing it's brakes.

I had also heard that this was done by the acceptance crew of the buying airline.


Anyone else hear this as the cause? Please excuse me if this was old news.

Kalitta Brussels
 

Does anyone have a picture of this accident with the thrust reversers showing deployed ?

Kalitta
 

Perf , be honest i don't think they really had time for that !!!!!!!!!

No time to deploy the thrust reversers?
Come on be serious... you must have had some reject procedure training at one time..?
Let's just wait until they come up with some official comment after they reviewed all the material shall we?
Afterall: job well done by the crew...but have you ever seen an aircraft split up like that?

Until then: Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...

If you get a piece of metal and bend or twist it for long enough, it will fracture. Simple. The trick is to find where that piece of metal has decided to begin to fracture, before it actually does.

I have a feeling in my gut, that it was extremely fortunate for a lot of poeple, the crew heard the bang before V1.

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