Not sure if it was a janes aircraft there was talk of G-BIUV being ready for export??

Is this the end of the Janes rebirth? I hope not, has anybody got any news?

Not sure if it was a janes aircraft there was talk of G-BIUV being ready for export??

Senegal was mentioned

Are there any 748 type rated pilots left?

Is this the end of the Janes rebirth? I hope not, has anybody got any news?

Not sure if it was a janes aircraft there was talk of G-BIUV being ready for export??

You mean in the UK? if so yep there is, and a TRE.

Janes A/C are G-AYIM & G-OSOE.

What do the 748 pilots do for the 360 days of the year they're not flying (assuming training and testing takes 4 days and one day off for Christmas)?

FOK :)

Has Janes got there TRTO operating then?

You mean in the UK? if so yep there is, and a TRE.

despite it going bust,mrj must have made plenty from emerald in order to prop up this reincarnation. quite unique really, an airline that doesnt have any flights.

I believe that the TRE was a former LTC and long-term ex-employee of Emerald. He managed to jump through the necessary CAA hoops despite not having flown much since Emeralds demise - Bloody Well Done, PK!

Let's hope that whoever is in charge of the Commercial Dept is working 24/7 to a secure a Contract.

G-OSOE was reported inbound to Southend this morning using a training flight number.

TRE
 

Well done PK.
Spent many a Sat evening with PK having a glass in the dreadful Ascot hotel in Douglas IOM.
He was still happy to talk about 3rd segment climbs at midnight!!!
Good luck

Any news on when the main crew training will happen?

G-OSOE was reported inbound to Southend this morning using a training flight number.

That is not good news

I heard a rumour tonight that AMS in Blackpool (Originally Emerald Airways Engineering) is to close up shop at the end of March.

Anyone know if this is true or where the aircraft remaining there are going?
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Both Janes' 748s are now sitting at SEN, with 'IM having arrived today.
Don't know what that's all about.

i believe theyre called wots nown in the industry as a static dispay

Perhaps JAN OPS 1 would be kind enough to give us an update regarding this apparent move south.

I am guessing with the impending closure of AMS at BLK that Janes have moved the aircraft back to SEN and are outsourcing there maintenance elsewhere.

Germstone
 

How very profound and, I am guessing, perhaps somewhat tongue in cheek...

Rgds
The Moss:ok:

"UV" departed BLK today to pastures new

ETA

A large part of aircraft G-BPNJ (ex ZS-ODJ) departed BLK today in the form of scrap in skip wagons.

G-OPFW faces the same fate very soon.

Slightly off topic but has anyone seen the Visit IOM advert on TV featuring none other than Keith Shawcross?

He has been spotted, Germstone mentioned it back on page 9.

Good Advert. One of those moments where you think 'where do I know that face from' !

Any further news on Janes ? The closure of BLK could not of come easy!

Is this the end of the road for the 748 in the UK?

Any further news on Janes ? The closure of BLK could not of come easy!

Anyone else heard the rumour that the 748s maybe going to a hot, sandy place where they wear tea-towels on their head? :eek:

:D

No, they've already been and left BLK!

Rgds
The Moss:ok:

doubtfull the AMS hangar that can only usually Accommodate 4 748's currently has 6 748s and an ATP inside!

ZS-ODJ (G-BPNJ) wings cut off tail cut off being stripped
G-OTBA condition as above
G-ORAL as above
G-ATMJ as above
G-OPFW as above
G-SOEI being worked possibility it will fly again maybe somewhere hot

G-BEJD outside storage possibility of preservation at LPL

G-BVOU outside storage future uncertain
G-BVOU as above

apparently that's how it currently stands from what I have been told??

when will they be cutting up the 2 that andy janes seems to have no use for?

Dada,

So bitter and twisted. You must have been a long term employee and haven't finished the counselling yet!!!

:ok:

Doc C

15 years man and boy and for what. you're right, but aren't i really also deep down. it aint goin nowhere.........

I saw the 2 aircraft at SEN the other day. All 'bunged up' with nowhere to go. SEN was full of ex airliners, Flightline 146s with tractors in front of them, Emerald S360 and a few larger aircraft - A320 & B737 all looking like they're rotting away....maybe the 748 fate is the same now they are there....??

I'd never describe dada as being bitter....sometimes twisted perhaps, but not bitter..... How u doing dada?

Is this a sad end to the 748?

Well, it's coming up to 12 months since the AOC was issued. There is still no flying or contracts and the engineering base has closed.

It isn't looking good unfortunately.

As someone not even that close to cargo world the whole scheme seemed fraught at the outset. A number of these old ladies that were brought to the UK from Aus are waiting to be cut at SEN, which is surely the end for Jane. Give them to a museum like DUX while they can still fly in.

The aircraft are too old and expensive to operate with a very limited uplift. Mind full marks for trying. How many crews are there for the two frames and what are they at if there is nil flying?

Ref the crews - all are Captains, some are semi-retired and some busy earning a crust. I believe that F/Os would need training up, as and when it was worth doing so.
If the 748s go to the sandpit then the guys willing to fly them will no doubt be reduced.

Did anyone else see on NW news last week, a Shed fusilage (G-SSWE if recall correctly) being delivered as a classroom to a school in Stoke.

Ballymoss: You're right! BLK is a hot and sandy place, requiring knotted hankie on head, when compared to the delights Fraggle Rock!
As the late Nick Holmes used to say: EG NH (nice holidays) and EG NS (never sunny)

As for Keith, good guy but he always seemed to be on his sodding boat when he was required at Ronaldsway :rolleyes:

Yes it would appear SSWE is now on a second lease of life as a classroom will certainly be an interesting environment for the kids to learn in :-)

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Off Subject; Yesterday I was pleased to note three Shorts 360 parked on the Cargo area of MIA and during my couple of days all seemed to have been in service. A little corner that is still England?

Dada,

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Any punters probably know who's involved and ran a mile. The famous quote "They think we're sh1t, wait til they try the others, they'll soon be back" don't wash any more and has proved to be so.

Doc c

The new set up has been managed by AJ and his two sons alone.
Several of the old EA boys where recruited as part of pilot recruitment.
One ops manager who was an ex EA consultant was also recruited.
No one else chose to get involved - fact.
It was always going to be tough going trying to resurrect Janes.
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p.s on a private off topic note, canny locate private mail, would like to congratulate the happy parents to be! hot moma alert!! superb couple :ok:

as billy ocean said.
when the going gets tough, the tough gets going

:ok: certainly does dada