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Ride On 2nd June 2003 04:59

:cool:Exxon-Valdez and Engineer, we all know who you are!!!
Thanks for confirming a couple of lose ends.Do you
guys spend to much time on your mobile phones maybe?

To Papa Noel and 3000 PSI, you guys have seen the Big
Picture for a long time now! Be wise and play your cards
close to your chest, it will all come out in the dirty wash, I
would say later rather than sooner. Lets take our time on
this one Guys!!!!!




Cool 4 Cats!!!

coopervane 3rd June 2003 05:57

As the sun goes down.......
 
The industry is full of airliners making people pay these days for yer type rating. Easy Jet and Ryanair to name a few. Perhaps Keith got his fingers burned in the Sabre days when some individuals came, reaped then nobbed off rapid style. I am sorry for all you guys who didnt get payed and its hard to be sympathetic when the bank managers is on yer back. But all you can do is try another port in a storm. If you read these forums, there is always someone having a go at de management. Its human nature. And where does it get you being bitter and twisted? You have flown probably one of the great jets of our time when others were button pushing and were longing to have a pole around the skies instead of letting the box of tricks do it for you. You are better pilots for it believe me.

Let Cougar RIP and move on to the next adventure!

Coopervane

3000psi 3rd June 2003 07:46

Hi coopervane,
you're damm right ," ResquiesCAT in pace " and lets move on to the next adventure.

Pax vobiscum

Exxon-Valdez 3rd June 2003 21:33

Ride off
 
Ride On

I am so scared that you think you know who I am.

Get over it :D



Exxon- Illuminati

Tarek Nor 4th June 2003 00:23

ND and JN gone
 
The B727's were ferried to the USA via SNN
today. I have heard they will be going to
South America and will be flying, so the
rumour about being parted out was just that.

They were not flown by Cougar crews.

3000psi 4th June 2003 00:25

Sic transit gloria mundi....!
 
the cats are gone....for good, I' ve been told.

Ride On 4th June 2003 01:56

Exxon-Valdez

I am sorry you are so scared, but I was scared when I joined Cougar, to see the likes off yourself working in a professional industry. Maybe when Britian join the EU there will be a Laws brought in to short you out!!!!!

As for getting over it, thanks to the likes of you, I built a bridge in the early days of Cougar and got over it a long time ago!!!!Ameigo!

"Ride on see you"

Cool 4 Cats! :ok:

Ride On 4th June 2003 03:01

[SIZE=3]

Goodbye to the remaining 2 Top Cats!!!It was a great
Pleasure!!!! ;)


Cool 4 Cats!

inverted-flik 4th June 2003 14:44

Hey coopervane,
Keepin ok I hope ? does the thought of me & ye drivin' the 'ol' 72 around europe again frighten ya ??? hope so !! cos ya never no, it might just happen very soon, I Kid !!!!!!!!!!;) :ok:

PS: been to Yorky Towers lately ? how is the old B****r ?

Exxon-Valdez 5th June 2003 21:47

Terrified!
 
That ride on is a professional.




Professional what?



The Cats and Cat Club are gone for good.



2Rye aye:ok:

VIKING9 5th June 2003 23:56

http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk.../notworthy.gif

papa noel 6th June 2003 00:34

:ok: Well at last it does seem as if they have gone and it couldnt have happened to a better managment. Good luck to the good guys and remember you allways go on to something better. As for the little people sincerly hope they are never seen in Aviation again and it will be a better place. RIP:mad:

Ride On 6th June 2003 01:47

Ex-con Valley,

Or future Con, "Whatever", I enjoyed the private message, now you enjoy the grey hairloss!!!:yuk:

Papa Noel, well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ok:



Cool 4 Cats!:cool:

Stability Jane 8th June 2003 06:59

Rumour that the Cougar boss planning to re-start with something heavy. Hope that all the ex-employees now paid and that they are offered jobs in the new outfit. Good luck guys. I hope that things work out well for all of you.

Best wishes.

3000psi 8th June 2003 18:43

Inch' allah......
 
Thanks for your best wishes stability jane,

But this will be out of reach for us all....as we are not TUPOLEV type rated and are neither russian or egyptian.....but I' ll love to be paid at least !!!

Miss T Fayed 13th June 2003 01:08

To All ex Cats,and their families,

No matter how bad things are at the moment and we are all suffering being owed so much money. Be positive and keep working together to get justice.
Many of our husbands had their salary cheques bounced several days before the administration order was granted and this is causing incredible stress and pain.
Keep gathering evidence and knowledge.Eventually if necessary the Serious Fraud Office can be involved.
If you marry a pilot and stay with him long enough you will have seen this all before.Non of these executives seemed very bright from what my xxxxxxx said and their contempt for professional aircrew will be their downfall.
See you in Court !

OneWorld22 13th June 2003 07:22

I know little about the Cougar situation Miss T Fayed, there are always two sides to every story. Very easy to have a go at management, they're always an easy target. Unless you or your husband have sat at the boardroom table you have no idea about managing an airline and how bloody difficult it is. So a few of you haven't got paid, you're pilots you WILL find other work. How do you think managament of a failed airline will fare? I mean after they've finished with the bankruptcy proceedings, the bankers, the lawyers, creditors, the recievers etc. You think they'll find a job easily? Maybe one or more of the directors gave personal guarantees to the bankers to secure funds, you know what that means when the business closes?

Bottom line is pilots can walk away with no strings attached. Not so easily done for those in charge.

VIKING9 13th June 2003 14:43


Unless you or your husband have sat at the boardroom table you have no idea about managing an airline and how bloody difficult it is.
let me tell you, this airline didn't even have a boardroom AND had no idea themselves how to run an airline. The staff of this so-called small, friendly airline have been well and truly shafted and I for one feel sorry for those who now find themselves with no money and no job thanks to so-called loyalty. I was a lucky one, I was paid.

If this company is thinking of launching again with a different type then I know for sure, questions will be asked and it won't just be people on Pprune who'll be asking them.

3000psi 13th June 2003 17:48

Dear Mister oneworld
 

Bottom line is pilots can walk away with no strings attached. Not so easily done for those in charge.
Are you just telling us that you belong to the same manager family with little regard for your staff.....or just winding us up ?!?!
Dear mister "Green Giant " what' s your background ? how many line check ? how many OPC/LPC ? How many 1st class medical ? How many type rating, CRM, SEP, Dangerous good......etc !!! have done in the last 12 months ?!?!
How many exams have you taken to seat at the board ?????
I sure walk away from the airplane with no string attached..... but just like all my colleagues I walk...... on a thigh rope since the first day of my carriere, and its getting worst ... every years thanks to a certain category of " Managers "
We' ve reach the 21st century and its knowledge and expertise we're expecting from the board of directors and
not gambling on the " Kriegspiel " board at our expense

Miss T Fayed 13th June 2003 18:31

One World, your name is very apt or should it read Lost World.

Your condescending comments are typical of someone who
presumes that anyone who expects ethical behaviour from Management in whatever guise has little understanding of business.
Perhaps, if you are interested you should find some facts about what happened at Cougar before making generalisations.
Business is tough and so is life,but there is a significant difference between balancing the accounts and blatently cheating and lying to loyal employees!
I think from your comments that maybe you are more upset that a mere female should use this forum to voice an opinion.
Perhaps you would be surprised that I am the owner of a small ETHICAL Aviation business as well as being a pilot. So like other women ( eg Barbara Cassani), standing by my my husband and have a little bit of a brain and understanding Aviation business are not necessarily mutually exclusive to people like you!


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