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Sleeping Freight Dog 14th Nov 2007 03:04

MK Airlines to become British Global??
 
Was searching through the U.S. DOT website and came across some interesting information. MK Airlines has applied to provide service from
Manston and Prestwick to Huntsville, AL and Miami, FL under the name
of British Global Airlines. Is the company changing its name for everything,
or just for this route application?, and does this have anything to do with
avoiding bad publicity for the MK name?

charter man 14th Nov 2007 10:27

MK are currently advertising for staff under the name of British Global Airlines, so I guess they are planning to drop the MK name sooner rather than later. Maybe they are also behind the mystery purchase of DAS to get the facility at Manston??

Need to Know Basis 14th Nov 2007 11:45

MK
 
Charter Man - which website are you looking at ?

I hear constant rumours they have 3 x B747F on ground being robbed of parts in order to support the fleet. It did`nt sound like all was well with MK so i`m surprised to hear of this new venture.

undiemole 14th Nov 2007 12:53

Just out of interest how many of MK's operating crew are British passport holders/citizens ?

It looks to me to be a rebranding in line with the registration of their aircraft onto the UK register.

On the plyus side good news for Manston ;)

diesel862 15th Nov 2007 15:36

I don't think that the crews nationality or indeed their passport holding makes any relevance to their flying standards / company standards.

They are a UK G- registered airline and like all other UK registered airlines are subject to the same level of regulation from the CAA as anyone else. It is a common fact that MK buy B747's and use them for spares. The Air Gabon at CDG that was written off and the Air Madagascar sitting in Chatereux are two that come to mind. It makes financial sense as long the the parts are certified and logged as per the company MEL and maintenance faciliy (MK's is EASA 145 approved at Filton).

Since the Halifax crash MK has had to bring itself into line and pull its socks up, I think they have done this, if they are changing their brand then good luck to them.

Kind Regards

Vince

Throat 15th Nov 2007 20:23

Need to Know, none of the fleet is parked, otherwise they wouldn't need the Air Altanta machine.

Saturn 16th Nov 2007 03:56

747 vs DC8
 
So do they only have 747 now the 8's are definetely gone? The MK website says they still have 55 and 62 series.

Throat 16th Nov 2007 06:18

The maybe one -62 still operational for internal african flights.

Two went to Johnsons, the rest are stored at Manston & Filton

diesel862 16th Nov 2007 12:18

MK's fleet currently stands as

G-MKAA ex 9G-MKQ
G-MKBA ex 9G-MKR
G-MKCA ex 9G-MKM
G-MKDA ex 9G-MKS
G-MKEA ex 9G-MKU
G-MKFA ex 9G-MKP
G-MKGA ex 9G-MKL
G-MKHA ex B-?????

TF-ARW is being hired till G-MKHA will arrive

G-MKHA the first of the ex China B747's is ferrying Peking - Bristol filton today.

Further more N748CK is still at Bristol to possiblby become G-MKLA.

3 x B747-200F ex B- reg to be delivered as well.

Cheers

Vince

Manston Airport 16th Nov 2007 17:47


So do they only have 747 now the 8's are definetely gone? The MK website says they still have 55 and 62 series.

But if you look at the bottom of there site it still says 2002 so its not been update for ages.
I see that MK also own a little R44II :ok:


James

diesel862 16th Nov 2007 21:01

Thats Mike Kruger's little toy to fly from his mansion.

Paradism 17th Nov 2007 14:17

diesel862

The registration you mention G-MKHA is now listed on CAA G-INFO and relates to previous registration B-2446. BOEING 747-2J6B Serial No.: 23071.

Sleeping Freight Dog 28th Nov 2007 20:33

Are there any outward signs of the change from MK to BGA??
Are any aircraft opeating with BGA titles?? any change in signage
at the main offices??? What is the latest on the rumor that MK is
talking with a Major airline about operating services on their behalf
from Manston??

manstonman 30th Nov 2007 16:58

MK signed some sort of Memorandum of Understanding (?) back in 2005 with OST and the town council and took out a 30 year lease on their hub and made various other undertakings. Since then trading conditions have changed considerably, could a name change get around this agreement with OST?

Paradism 1st Dec 2007 14:09

MK also appear to have registered the web domain name BRITISHGLOBALAIRLINES.COM but thus far do not seem to have used it.

manstonman 2nd Dec 2007 14:42

Looks like they registered it back in February. Whatever they're up to it doesn't appear to be moving at a great rate of knts.

Paradism 5th Dec 2007 17:12

Extract form CAA Official Record Series 2 No. 1827
"Expedited Procedure
Category (iii) of paragraph 14 of the Department for Transport’s Leasing Procedures of 15 November 2006 MK Airlines Limited to dry lease a Ghanaian-registered Boeing 747-2B5BF aircraft (registration 9G-MKM) from 1 December 2007 until 31 January 2008 pending the transfer of the aircraft to the UK register."

manstonman 6th Dec 2007 09:21

Didn't waste much time pressing it into action, 9G-MKM was in Manston last Sunday

putco 7th Dec 2007 11:35

Indeed - 9G-MKM was in Singapore two days ago.

Old habits die hardest..

Coleman Myers 12th Dec 2007 10:06

Mk Name Change
 
The brand MK may have had its ups and downs but I would prefer to see it remain. Mike Kruger is a complete gentleman who deserves every success. If he has an R44 for hoping accross to Manston thats great .. I expect it will be an Augusta before too long ..

Marvo 21st Dec 2007 10:09

So, the aircraft are to become G-registered !

Having seen some MK crews in the Anchor / Haywagon pubs and forming a que at the CAA flight crew licence counter converting South African licence's to JAA ones, only the aircraft will be British.. Dont bother changing the name . Good luck though !

thrax 25th Jan 2008 21:19

9G-MKM
 
9G-MKM will become G-MKCA on the 30th Jan. Set complete. Pat Pearse is now the day to day boss leaving Kruger to concentrate what he is good at. One has to assume they are planning to run the -200F old bangers out.

I hear they HAVE some very heavy weight backing - both financial and expertise.

Good luck MK Airlines (BGB?). Global domination beckons!

Twitcher 9th Feb 2008 07:14

first use of BGB callsign
 
An MK flight left Manston yesterday using the BGB callsign (BGB747P), things are moving ahead for them.

ex dog 10th Feb 2008 20:41

Twicher
 
If MK Airlines are now to become British Global why can't they land at LHR or LGW Surely the Logistics would be better than MSN , Flying on a G reg

altayaara 10th Feb 2008 21:58

A german friend reported a MK aircraft at HHN airport in Germany, arrived ferry from MSE , loaded in HHN and went to THR on 8 feb.

This flight was done under BGB flightnumber.

Twitcher 10th Feb 2008 21:59

A lot of cargo goes in and out of the UK by road once it lands at Manston or Ostend, Dover is close so it makes sense...besides, Heathrow and Gatwick are expensive. Also, using a G reg. has more benefits to enable you to go to other countries, not just the UK.

Paradism 12th Feb 2008 19:44

Route License Application
 
On todays CAA Route License Notices I note that MK has submitted an application:

"S/054 MK Airlines Limited trading as British Global has applied to operate schedule flights between any combination of points within the terms of the holder’s Air Operator’s Certificate."

manstonman 13th Feb 2008 11:22

Is MK/BGA gearing itself up to become a pax carrier?

lovethefreight 28th Feb 2008 13:48

Don't be daft!

Lou Stulewater 28th Feb 2008 14:26

Hold on a minute. to those earlier posters who mentioned licences and nationalities.
After Halifax they sorted themselves out.
I would rather have the scions of colonials and their new uk standards in this airspace and country than some of the visiting airlines and freeloading first generation immigrants we have now.:ok:

ex dog 28th Feb 2008 22:24

MK
 
Love the comment earlier DONT BE DAFT !!!

And very true do you think MK , and MR Kruger would get involved in SLF

lefturnout 29th Feb 2008 08:01

Why the sneering? It doesn't seem an unreasonable question to me. Might be better if you explained why Mike Kruger wouldn't entertain SLF.

Jes 29th Feb 2008 08:13

It wasn't sneering, just an apposite comment. Those amongst us who've known MK in any capacity will see the sense of it, and there is no obligation on anyone to give full explanations of their views. And manstonman is a Pprune chum of mine.

undiemole 29th Feb 2008 10:30


And very true do you think MK , and MR Kruger would get involved in SLF
Actually, I believe that MK actually did some pax flying with their very first DC8 in the early days :confused:

africa man 29th Feb 2008 12:29

Dealing with SLF is one pain in the rear, especially if you are a dedicated cgo carrier which is all ready up and running , its a totally different ball game i can assure you that having been involved with the setting up of a pax airline while working for a cgo airline its a nightmare. If the cgo flt is late by a few hours not a train smash, but if a pax airline runs late you have never heard such a commotion especially in africa you open up a whole can of worms...wud suggest that MK sticks with what he is doing and knows best..loading pallets is much easier then SLF by far.

snarfel 16th Mar 2008 21:10

MK's permit to fly USA
 
MK Airlines as British Global Airlines, authorized to the United States as from March 30.

http://www.regulations.gov/fdmspubli...ontentType=pdf.

Coleman Myers 30th Mar 2008 09:11

MK pax possibilities
 
MK Airlines did indeed operate a combi service out of Nairobi in the early and mid-1990's but I heard were run out of town by British Airways. They also carried multiple pax on charters etc. I understand that they opted to focus on cargo. And from what I recall, the Icelandic AOC they held sometime ago is used by a pax operation. Who knows though: maybe they are preparing for the collapse of Air Zimbabwe ???. Great airline and even greater people, I hope the G reg works for them :D

alanlyn 30th Mar 2008 10:18

AL
 
Does anyone know the future of Manston regards M.K.cargo?

manrow 7th Apr 2012 19:15

G-MKCA with other G-MK aircraft have been at Kemble for some time and are not being broken up yet!

Hotel Tango 8th Apr 2012 17:29

Don't they have a couple of 747s sitting in Ostende (Belgium)?


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