Please ignore, he`s not angry, black or a man!

Nice to see he is enjoying his retirement though.

I thought Angryblackman just hated Evergreen people...

Let me guess, massive fourloughs on the Atlas now???? Just asking????:rolleyes:

There is no use in getting your thong in a bunch over something that may or may not happen. These guys change their minds about as often as the sunrises. I don't beleive anything this outfit says until it happens. And with the latest announce of an investor group buying 35% of AAWH stock, things will probably change a few more times. Just collect the paycheck and prepare for the worst.

Tiger Guy
 

Hey! Angerblackjerk. Who you trying to kid. Do you think Bill Whatley has forgotten how to spell his name. "Watley" give us a break.

You talking about this?........

http://www.aircargoworld.com/news/index.htm#c

Yep. sure am. I don't know what it means other than changes are on the way. Hopefully it will mean ta-ta Cato.

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Kasher Arb
 

So how did that "third" arbitration come out? Any news?

Thanks to all of you who wished me a happy new year. Standby here comes that 'plan B.'

It appears that AAWW management has consumed a little "crow", and that all of Polar's fired / furloughed crewmembers are now orderd re-employed, with no-one remaining on the street. Our greatest wish now is that all crewmembers at Atlas Air remain intact. If this occurs, then a true celebration for all of us at AAWW .


Note to Management - grow these #%$^ two airlines and the hell with plan "B"!

[QUOTE=ship's power;3088152]It appears that management has consumed a little "crow", and that all of Polar's fired / furloughed crewmembers are now orderd employed, with no-one remaining on the street. Our greatest wish now is that all crewmembers at Atlas Air will remain intact. If this occurs, then a true celebration for all at AAWW .

I certainly wish the "reinstated" pilots all of the above, but somehow I can't see everyone of them remaining on the property for too long.

To the recalled/reinstated that are currently employed elsewhere: think before you quit your new employer to go back to PO. JC screwed you once, he'll do it again. Take whatever he gives you ($) but keep your present job until you really know what's going on or rather, until you have some assurance that you won't be hitting the street AGAIN soon!

I sincerely hope you'll prove me wrong and hope it all works out for you guys and gals, but I wouldn't trust JC one sec! If there isn't a plan B in place yet, they're most definitely working on it.

Good luck all!

I concur with that last post. From the info we have obtained the third arbitration has ben won and the parties are waiting for the for the parties to hammer out some sort of mutual agreement. However, that isn't happening and everyone is waiting for the arbitrator to make the final decision. But don't jump up and down just yet. 355 is in SIN and going to the Polar certificate. It is expected to fly 180 hours a month, but with no manuals, no ops specs for the classic, no instructors and no check airman, it ought to interesting how they are planning on doing it. I am sure that Cato et.al. has something up their sleeve for everyone involved. The previous post is correct. There is no way a company can absorb the costs that they are occurring every month, especially for a bottom feeder like AAWH in the slow time of the year. Some one has to go and given the past actions by management they are going to try again to dump the Polar people and keep the Atlas crews to fly the Polar trips. I am sure that eventually they will figure out a way. Things are going to interesting now. I am just going to sit back and watch, collect my money and wonder if Cato will get the boot over this boondoggle.

If you don't mind me asking, which side has come out the winner of the 3rd arbitration (Kasher)?

The arbiter denied the grievance.

Allowing for further Alliance flying, but I think Mr. Cato has decided to begin Atlas scheduled service by Polar MEC Chairman Bobb Henderson's comments.

I web searched the Polar VARS phone number and recorded it for you once I found it again. Search engines make the world real small. Couldn't find the ALPA .rm file on it. Forgive the bleeps I inserted on the phone numbers given out in the message.

IN MP3 FORMAT

I have a few differences to a few things said on it, but I will let that coast in view of the ongoing truce and hope those that are curious investigate for themselves outside of it's confines.

http://cptaudio.com/cgi-bin/merger/logs.pl

Thks K, I knew the answer. I was just surprised at the second and third phrases of Dr T's post.

I got it from someone in on the negotiations. Frankly I could give a darn as long as they keep giving me money.

You won't get paid long the folks in NY, are a lot smarter than you and the rest of you'r colleques give them credit. I am sure this is not you'r first airline you helped try to shut down!

I am not shutting down anything. We are just making them stick to the CBA that they agreed to. Nothing more, nothing less. If they had bothered to adhere to the contract none of this would have happened.
As for me, I am glad of their position and I have moved on to a much better job with a much, much better carrier that is expanding that I wouldn't have otherwise. And guess what, they work well with the union, not contentious like AAWH.