You know that AAI is mainly flying cargo aircraft? Mutt |
Then you are talking about Saudia. I don't know enough about the contract made between AAI and Saudia to comment on this, nor do I know enough about this approval.
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OK so let us look at Saudia Flt 2250, it finally landed at its destination with 3600 kgs of fuel.(B747 TF-AMJ).
What procedures do you have in place to: 1: Record that the flight landed with below minimum fuel. 2: Discovered why this happened? 3: Advise the lessee why this happened. 4: Implement corrective active active to avoid recurrence. Mutt |
I guess that answers to these questions will be given by my boss to your boss, not from me to you here on pprune.
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Ha ha, good answer.......
Yes the answers will be supplied outside of Pprune.... Mutt |
IAOSA
IATA Operational Safety Audit for those in ops, nice to know you see. Or if one does not know something, using an internet search engine can do wonders.
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AAIops
AAI ops,
read your post and have a few comments. Resignations Wouldn't it be easier to improve T&C's to prevent crews from leaving and spend enormous amounts of money rather than to train new crews over and over again that will also just stay for short periods ? AAI is not a scheduled Airline Very true! But this doesn't mean that crews have give up their lives to be available. Day to day rostering has it that even off days disapear and people can't plan anything. Everybody has a private life and it is of course a favour to the company if a crew member goes to work on a rostered off day! In fact this day should be paid extra as well (just like it is for permanent crews). Icelandic taxes Fact is that everybody who lives in Europe has to pay taxes somewhere in the range between 20% and 45%. Keep in mind that contractors have no benefits at all and are paid in U$D with no compensation whatsoever. Limited resources Get the required resources - hire professionals, pay their price, fairly simple. I wish the new management luck quite some work ahead. Maybe things improve for all contractors but management has to wake up now! |
Thank you for your post MaxBlow, I feel that you are very factual and I'm happy to see that.
I'll go through your reply and answer every comment you made. Resignations Wouldn't it be easier to improve T&C's to prevent crews from leaving and spend enormous amounts of money rather than to train new crews over and over again that will also just stay for short periods ? In regards to conditions alone I think that if you compare pay between AAI and other operators in the same field, AAI is not as unfair as some users here on pprune say they are. By browsing through www.ppjn.com you can see that, but I think that AAI could improve in that field, and hopefully the will. Everything happens in small steps, but sometimes they are too few and too small... AAI is not a scheduled Airline Very true! But this doesn't mean that crews have give up their lives to be available. Day to day rostering has it that even off days disappear and people can't plan anything. Everybody has a private life and it is of course a favor to the company if a crew member goes to work on a rostered off day! In fact this day should be paid extra as well (just like it is for permanent crews). Rostering is not done on a day to day bases, except in Jeddah. SV is constantly changing our schedule so there is just no way that a roster can be issued for 15 days and kept. I think that Rostering has been issuing these rosters with stand-by days and days off. You should only be asked to fly when on stand-by, not on off days. Favors have been done by crew members, of course! But a roster change is not a favor. If crew members can not accept that their roster will change they are not working for the correct airline. I'm not encouraging anyone to resign, I'm just pointing out a simple fact. Icelandic taxes Fact is that everybody who lives in Europe has to pay taxes somewhere in the range between 20% and 45%. Keep in mind that contractors have no benefits at all and are paid in U$D with no compensation whatsoever. In regards to the benefits; I know that AAI crew members don't get any benefits, but why don't the contractors form a union and demand them? Last year some guys tried to unionize contractors within AAI, but their first action was to strike! How stupid was that? Fist make a union, have everybody join it and then do something. Don't have crew members say if they are in our out by forcing them to strike on the first day if they want to be in. Needless to say only a handful of guys participated in the strike. Limited resources Get the required resources - hire professionals, pay their price, fairly simple. I wish the new management luck quite some work ahead. Maybe things improve for all contractors but management has to wake up now! And yes, agreed, the management has to wake up! It might be too late tomorrow! Having said all that I would like you AAI guys who read this pass a message on to your colleagues: If you are unhappy don't bitch about it for the 8, 10 or 12 hrs you are flying. If you are unhappy just write a polite e-mail to HQ in Iceland and say why you are unhappy. If you don't get a reply send it again and again and again until you get a response. Send it to Human Resources, send it to Manager of Crewing, send it to VP of Flight Operations, send it to the Chief Pilot and send it to the CEO! Too often guys go on without saying anything, except to each other or at the most the poor their s**t over some poor ops staff which don't deserve it and can't do anything about it. I'll let this do for now, I hope you got your answers MaxBlow :) |
AAI Operations
A flight deck commitee would be a good start with members elected by line flight crew. They would represent the flight crew on all matters.
Also an end to the laying off of well qualified crew because someone in engineering or operations does not like them. If the company has a professional problem with someone the crew member must have a chance to defend themselves. This would mean the Chief Pilot and Chief flight engineer would need to be involved to help the crew not yes men for the company. All bases should be shared fairly no matter where you are from including Iceland. If you do a term in Jeddah then you should have chance of a base elsewhere. It all boils down to management in Iceland respecting ALL crew members. Good luck to all. |
AAI_Operations
Lostinspace could not have made it clearer than that. I suggest you take heed. |
Thank you for your post Lostinspace, here are my answers for you. Don't hesitate to shoot back if you feel my answers aren't adequate.
A flight deck commitee would be a good start with members elected by line flight crew. They would represent the flight crew on all matters. Also an end to the laying off of well qualified crew because someone in engineering or operations does not like them. If the company has a professional problem with someone the crew member must have a chance to defend themselves. This would mean the Chief Pilot and Chief flight engineer would need to be involved to help the crew not yes men for the company. I would have to admit that I would sack 10 or 12 immediately if I held a position to do so. The vast majority of you guys are great, but there are always some that do not belong... All bases should be shared fairly no matter where you are from including Iceland. If you do a term in Jeddah then you should have chance of a base elsewhere. It all boils down to management in Iceland respecting ALL crew members. I would also like to thank Formally Known As for his post. Lostinspace could not have made it clearer than that. I suggest you take heed. That is all for now :) p.s. a closed forum for AAI employees might be a good idea, that might be the beginning... |
Fair enough, at least you are taking it in.
I think I know who you are...oh yes i dooooo... You're Jerry O'Springer!! Oh yes you are. How was that for a guess? |
I think I know who you are...oh yes i dooooo... You're Jerry O'Springer!! Oh yes you are. How was that for a guess? hahaha... that is a good one :) but far from being correct :) |
Firstly I do not work for AAI but I may have a few suggestions that could help.
At the company I work for we do not have a union. We used to have a pilot body that was elected to negotiate with the company on behalf of all crews on issues that effected the pilot body and individuals. That didn’t work so well as when the group didn’t get what the other pilots thought was fair the negotiators were sometimes very harshly criticised and a few even left the company. This created a division and extreme stress in some of the crews for a small gain in T & C’s. What we do now is pay an Industrial relations lawyer to work on our behalf. Captains pay about $600 and FO’s about $400 per year and that get us a year of his service. We only have a small pilot group and as the company grows and hires more and they join then the costs per member goes down. He has achieved lots more and we have more than covered our costs with increased benefits and conditions. There is no stress to the pilot group, and we have professional legal advice an all matters. He has negotiated our contracts and recently added productivity bonuses.This works really well for us and from what I have read I think it will work well for AAI crews. We also setup a group forum. The only ones with access are our Lawyer and our pilots. This is easy to setup and once it is setup then the work required from the pilots is minimum. Good Luck |
I have a few friends who worked there a few years ago, late 2004-2005. I have to say, if what they say was true, AAI has to be the worst place in the world to work.
Spoke with someone who just went for an interview in LGW and met the new Chief Pilot. Not very impressive. Job was offered, and job was turned down. No ability to commit to any base or days off. Doesn't seem like things have changed at all. |
A Cry For Help
Hoi all my little cash cows! Oim joost back from anodder o me leetl vaccations to d'Beloovid Emerald Isle. Da BIG difference is lads dat Oi'm gettin a joocy sloice of all yer wages all d'while. Dats whoy I Loove you all so much and put so many years in settin oop all these creative contracts. Clever words and lots of rewards for the boys! Its You Oi'm thinkin of Lads, aal d whoile, You!
Now, since last toime I set all yer restless moinds to rest and terminated the few spoitful leetl sinners causing civil oonrest der, it seems dat inexplicably, some trecherous agents of d Devil have got into Riverdeep, airbourne rats Mountainhigh upyerdrainpoipe and back on the books of this perfect agency agency of moine. Now as you can imagine dis causes me throat to toighten wit a loomp of emotional sorrow for meself (And you good lads who assume d position wit no protests) Dats the esteemed position of an AAI contractor wid the special place in heaven reserved for ye. Rest assured lads Oi'm gonna clean out the agitators and restore d loovin peace dat AAI is famous for. ITS YOU OI'M TINKIN OF LADS...ONLY YOO!!!!!!!!! |
as an aaic acmi user .. have not had any negative feed back from the pilot community flying on our contracts
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acmi48
Y dont moan about internal company problems to the customer. That would do no good as the customer is hardly responsible for the actions or conditions the ACMI operator or their crewing company choose to impose.
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4weeks on - 10 days off Typical of AAI, good idea but not quite right! How about 4 weeks on - 2 weeks off?
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rsull said: What we do now is pay an Industrial relations lawyer to work on our behalf. Captains pay about $600 and FO’s about $400 per year and that get us a year of his service. We only have a small pilot group and as the company grows and hires more and they join then the costs per member goes down. He has achieved lots more and we have more than covered our costs with increased benefits and conditions. There is no stress to the pilot group, and we have professional legal advice an all matters. He has negotiated our contracts and recently added productivity bonuses.This works really well for us and from what I have read I think it will work well for AAI crews. We also setup a group forum. The only ones with access are our Lawyer and our pilots. paddy in the east said: I have a few friends who worked there a few years ago... acmi48 said: as an aaic acmi user .. have not had any negative feed back from the pilot community flying on our contracts Yobbo said: 4weeks on - 10 days off Typical of AAI, good idea but not quite right! How about 4 weeks on - 2 weeks off? |
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