I applyed for them since one year ago, i update my application, regulary. No answer until now

From what I heard (two buddies flying there), morale is low: people working 25-26 days a month right now. A lot of people leaving towards Middle East because they cannot get a stable roster/social life with Cargolux...
Time to command is another reason for them to leave:more than 12-13 years.

Hiring resumed to normal process now.

Cheers,

Chewy

Wow that's not good. I thought they recieved 10 days off every 28 days and could attach leave to those days. Has that system gone?

No it's not. And it is not even practiced unless you are one of the greedy ones
who sell all their off-days!

Chewwy
 

Chewwy, If you don't know what you're talking about, don't say anything then.

This is absolute rubbish! In the current 28 day roster period I'm only working 14 and this is without one single day of holiday/ vacation leave.
People who're working flat out are selling their OFF days, this is a voluntary thing so if your buddies are complaining about this, they're the only ones to blame.

The rosters in cargolux have always been unstable, that's part of the deal I would say. I heard of a few people leaving for the ME, but most of them are captains anyway. Time to command is long, but that's the same with every respectable company. And from what I hear the times of quick commands in the ME are over anyway.

Maybe morale has been better but this has nothing to do with the arguments you came up with… :=

why quit CPT at CARGOLUX?
 

INDRAPOERA, it seems you know what you are talking about.
What I don't get is, why would ANYONE leave the left seat position with cargolux, as its payed more that any ME airline, plus the pension is massive which only comes on top...? unless you are from ME, i really can't see why someone would leave... can you please explain, if you know the guys? thanks man

cheeck, thanks for the info...
Obviously, even in CLX its not all roses, but of course it depends on the individual what they want from life...

pay system
 

Good day,

what sort of gross and net pay can I expect as a new joiner FO, what sort of increments do you have?
also, what is the net pay for a year 1 capt.

Married, no children.

Thanks

Have they resumed Karachi?

Regarding the floating days off: Do they "move" around quite a lot even when you're close to them, say 3-4 days to go? Also can the company replace those floating days off with work if they wish and move them to a later roster or do they have to give you them in that 28 day period?

Could anyone be so kind to pm me an example of a roster? Much appreciated.

Thanks, Wireless

Local media are reporting CV pilots starting a "work to rule" action in response to rumours of out-sourcing jobs, etc.

Yowsers! (Sorry if already up...I'll delete if so)
dumpert.nl - Welkom aan boord dames en heren

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnBr3enzW1I

Just came across the video, even test pilots do not dare something similar. Never flew the queen of skies but looks scary.

So that's why the flowers for sale in my local shop all have squashed heads, petals missing.

Hi Morane, I'll have the test in November. Could you tell me more about the small talk and the case study please?
Thank you.

Salary cut?
 

couchpotatoe,

I have been reading cx thread for several years now, so as far as I have seen in previous posts, you are a credible person...
I have received an email they will call me for assessment soon, however if what you are saying is true, i aint coming...
Is this the result of recent union negotiations?
Are these conditions now black on white, or is something being considered?

Thanks

One should be aware that starting 2016 an accommodation no further than 90 min driving time away from base will be legally required (EASA FTL), and to be proven by the pilot (hotel room is sufficient).
Commuting from further away will then require an apartment nearby, or a hotel room before each rotation.
TNT pays for the hotel at base, I think Cargolux don't.

What's the honest latest with Cargolux recruitment?

I waited years to be in a position to apply to them. I've had an application with Cargolux for nearly 2 years. I've rung interpersonal and they just say the application is still waiting to be viewed by Cargolux, nothing they can do. It's not even been looked at. Yet I read they are still recruiting.

I can't understand it. B744 rated, 3500 hours total, EASA ATPL. Only thing I can think of is my UK address puts me at the bottom. I keep a keen eye on all references to CV. I see the ppjn reference says they're still recruiting but the future is uncertain.

couchpotatoe
 

I was just re reading few posts back...
1 passed first stage, waiting for second stage.

Couchpotatoe, you were saying if you get in before conditions get worse its ok, and otherwise its a tough decision.

I try to undersand this as more sooner than later, CWA will be signed and conditions will be ****. What does this mean for people on the old contract, ie if yours is signed before this new deal?

I thought everyone is in the same both and all conditions will reduce, regardless of you having old or new contract?

In my company we have a contract with employer and then base agreement "contract" and that can change (ie small increase in basic pay, per diems, etc) but not the contract basic salary ( it technically can also, but historically never has so, but i didnt keep up with inflation either)

This CWA, what does it represent, an entire employee contract? So in that case it affects only ppl that come after it has been signed and ppl prior that are still "ok" ...
Future seems uncertain

Thanks

Wireless
 

Well, honestly, i did selection in ams on monday and got told tuesday i fit the requirement for cargolux and waiting now for 2nd stage.

At my selection, there was only 1 other applicant; cca 55-60 year old guy, i beleive he was going for cargolux italia as DEC, but i am only assuming this as he was italian, and the administrator told me he aint here for joining mainline cargolux, but we did have some similar tests, only i had few more that cx requires extra...

Strange if you already have a 74 rating they dont take yu, its cheaper...
No idea man, sori

feeling stupid...
 

Flight Experience Option B-2:

3,000 hours total time
2,000 hours are on high performance turboprop or jet (ATR 72 Canadair CRJ100, CRJ200, CRJ700 Challenger 600, 601, 604 Bombardier Dash 8 Q400 Embraer 135, 145,170, 190 Falcon 50, 50EX, 900, 900EX, 2000, 2000EX, 7X Gulfstream II, III, IV, V Saab 2000)

Flight Experience Option C:

On a multi-pilot turbo-jet aeroplane certificated to the standards of CS-25 or equivalent airworthiness code or on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a maximum certificated take-off mass of not less than 10 tonnes or a certificated passenger seating configuration of more than 19 passengers, at least 500 hours flight time or 100 route sectors.

I don't get this...:ugh:

So someone with 500hours and or 100sectors on the q400 can apply ? :confused:
Then why do they have the B-2 Option?

Someone going to Amsterdam in February for GPSS?

A friend of mine is scheduled for Amsterdam Assessment on the 13th of February.

Any Info on the tests
 

I just got the message that I am up for the first round of tests at the AMC in Amsterdam.
Does anyone know what kind of test they use and if there is any training software available? Or even something about these psychological assessments.
Any info is appreciated.

Hi ,

Now i passed also selection 1 waiting for step 2. are you still waiting for the Interview ? I do so


Cheers

Hi,
Could you be so kind and give some information about the the first step?
What kind of tests etc...

Thanks :)

How long did you have to wait for the results?

Rgds

Just 1 1/2 days...

Either for good or bad result? .....one week waiting... Still no reply ... I'm afraid it means nothing good...

I've send you an PN.

Replied on PN... Thanks!

Guys, I received the email from IP this morning that I have been placed "on the waiting list to possible be invited for assessment... This could take several months."

Anyone have any experience how long this usually takes? By PM if you prefer :ok:

It took 3 weeks until I got an email from the aviation medical center regarding an appointment for the assessment.

Great...I'm still waiting since late June 2014...:ugh:

Anyone invited to the assessment care to share their experience?

Just trying to get an idea of the minimum requirements that they actually invite, because the three groups as set by IP are pretty widespread...

FO 5500hrs B738
currently doing A320 typerating :(

CLX
 

Hi, may I ask you when was your Assessment in AMS?

The division of requirements is most likely to be explained by the lesser requirements of our southerly dependance.
Beware of it, it's your life and it's going to bite you at one point, promise!

Think twice
 

As 16td2go alreay said.... watch out. Most, if not all jobs offered are down in our slavery sister Cargolux Italia. You will most likely regret to join this outfit since T&Cs are most likely worse the Ryanair....Even joining mainline in LUX could become an unwanted adventure. If you have a good and secure job, think twice... Flying a 747 is not worth an adventure you might regret one day...
HURZ

Why would joining mainline possibly be an unwanted adventure? Are things heading that bad?

Also, I thought it was a separate process to join ICV rather than you apply thinking you're going for mainline to find out the jobs actually for the terrible conditions at Italia?