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I flew into Prestwick last week and it was still sat outside the Polar Air Hangar. I was talking to one of Heavylifts former senior engineers at the Coventry airshow and he was perplexed why anybody bought the aircraft after they went bust. He reckoned the aircraft only had about a years life left in it even robbing bits of G-BEPS. Still a great shame to see it sitting abandoned. Hopefully the new owers might donate it to a museum such as Duxford if the issues to return it to service cannot be resolved.
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Are they able to use the one at SEN for spares as with all that has gone on who actually owns the SEN one. The other might as well have stayed at Southend as far closer to Duxford.
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``it arrived last week??????
It arrived 9 months ago mate.
In that time it has been in and out the Polar hangar.It got repainted in there and it still has to get a rej.It has supposidly been sold on to Transpacific PTY Limited(whatever the hell that is)in Australia,but there has been something happened in the deal and it has went off,rumour.
OH,and the guy that runs the Polar hangar is the owner.;-))
It arrived 9 months ago mate.
In that time it has been in and out the Polar hangar.It got repainted in there and it still has to get a rej.It has supposidly been sold on to Transpacific PTY Limited(whatever the hell that is)in Australia,but there has been something happened in the deal and it has went off,rumour.
OH,and the guy that runs the Polar hangar is the owner.;-))
Belfast Freighter
Well, here goes my first post! For all you purveyers of doom out there I can only say that my old girl has a very positive future and will shortly be leaving PIK for warmer parts: and she will hopefully have a long future out there. O
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Following article from AIR TRANSPORT WORLD:
HeavyLift to enter crowded Pacific island cargo market
Dateline: Friday September 05, 2003
Competition in the Pacific island market intensified after the International Air Services Commission gave approval to HeavyLift Cargo Services, which is owned by Transpacific Pty Ltd., to begin operating international freight services into and out of Brisbane with a mix of Belfasts and 727s.
HeavyLift this month will take up operations providing for the carriage of up to 60 tonnes of cargo per week to Papua New Guinea, followed by the Solomon Islands (50 tonnes per week) in Oct. and Vanuatu (25 tonnes per week) in Nov. It will compete with national carriers Air Niugini, Solomon Airlines and Air Vanuatu on the routes.
HeavyLift also has expressed interest in extending its network to Nauru and New Caledonia when the rights become available. Another Australian startup, Transpac, obtained rights to those points but has not yet utilized them.
IASC in its determination of HeavyLift's application raised concerns that forecasts of likely volumes on the Pacific routes appeared "optimistic," particularly in relation to Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands. However, it was satisfied that the airline has the financial backing, resources, skills and experience necessary to implement its proposals.
"While the Commission does have some concerns about the ongoing viability of HeavyLift's services, it is not necessary for the Commission to be certain that a carrier will maintain services over the long term," IASC said. It has given the carrier until March 2004 to use capacity fully on all three routes.--Ian Thomas
Thought y'all would be interested!
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HeavyLift to enter crowded Pacific island cargo market
Dateline: Friday September 05, 2003
Competition in the Pacific island market intensified after the International Air Services Commission gave approval to HeavyLift Cargo Services, which is owned by Transpacific Pty Ltd., to begin operating international freight services into and out of Brisbane with a mix of Belfasts and 727s.
HeavyLift this month will take up operations providing for the carriage of up to 60 tonnes of cargo per week to Papua New Guinea, followed by the Solomon Islands (50 tonnes per week) in Oct. and Vanuatu (25 tonnes per week) in Nov. It will compete with national carriers Air Niugini, Solomon Airlines and Air Vanuatu on the routes.
HeavyLift also has expressed interest in extending its network to Nauru and New Caledonia when the rights become available. Another Australian startup, Transpac, obtained rights to those points but has not yet utilized them.
IASC in its determination of HeavyLift's application raised concerns that forecasts of likely volumes on the Pacific routes appeared "optimistic," particularly in relation to Papua New Guinea and the Solomon Islands. However, it was satisfied that the airline has the financial backing, resources, skills and experience necessary to implement its proposals.
"While the Commission does have some concerns about the ongoing viability of HeavyLift's services, it is not necessary for the Commission to be certain that a carrier will maintain services over the long term," IASC said. It has given the carrier until March 2004 to use capacity fully on all three routes.--Ian Thomas
Thought y'all would be interested!
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Good luck to the old lady. Like so many aircraft (or ships) she has gone from Queen of the Skies to tramp steamer in her late middle age.
I want to think of a Bogart lookalike skipper, with a battered cap, and a grubby shirt. I want to think of a keen young copilot, who is so keen to get into the air that he will happily pole an aircraft that is as old as his mother. The engineer will drink coffee from a mug that is furtively topped up from a hipflask.
And what better venue to operate in than steamy Pacific airstrips, and what better cargo than 'general freight' around PNG?
I can visualise the movie already. I want Draper to play the engineer, I have a skipper in mind but the libel laws are too strict.
And on the ground is a sassy Oz girl pilot who flies the near suicidal rescue mission when the old Belfast finally runs out of puff on an upcountry airstrip where the locals prefer pilots to pork in their stewpot.
The Oz GP? Reddo, of course.
I want to think of a Bogart lookalike skipper, with a battered cap, and a grubby shirt. I want to think of a keen young copilot, who is so keen to get into the air that he will happily pole an aircraft that is as old as his mother. The engineer will drink coffee from a mug that is furtively topped up from a hipflask.
And what better venue to operate in than steamy Pacific airstrips, and what better cargo than 'general freight' around PNG?
I can visualise the movie already. I want Draper to play the engineer, I have a skipper in mind but the libel laws are too strict.
And on the ground is a sassy Oz girl pilot who flies the near suicidal rescue mission when the old Belfast finally runs out of puff on an upcountry airstrip where the locals prefer pilots to pork in their stewpot.
The Oz GP? Reddo, of course.
I love the picture that you paint but the "steamy Pacific airstrips" bit is unlikely to happen unless the said airstrip has a bloody good LCN.
If my memory serves me right, the old girl has a pretty high footprint.
If my memory serves me right, the old girl has a pretty high footprint.
EricTCartman, Hi
Are you sure it was Malta?? Thar's a funny way to go to Oz and the intention was Westabout.
JW 411, Hello
The Belfast has so many main wheels that she can operate off surprisingly low LCN's ( or pcn's as you wish). If the pressures are dropped to 120 psi you can operate down to 23 or so.
We operated into many short strips with very low strength pavements over the last 23 years without problems. Stopping was never a problem it was getting airborne that caused the odd rear twinges!
Are you sure it was Malta?? Thar's a funny way to go to Oz and the intention was Westabout.
JW 411, Hello
The Belfast has so many main wheels that she can operate off surprisingly low LCN's ( or pcn's as you wish). If the pressures are dropped to 120 psi you can operate down to 23 or so.
We operated into many short strips with very low strength pavements over the last 23 years without problems. Stopping was never a problem it was getting airborne that caused the odd rear twinges!
Hockham Admiral:
Many thanks for that. I flew the old girl for 6 years with the original owners and I do remember that we had to pay a lot of attention to LCNs. We often had to get permission from the airfield owners to let us in on a temporary basis when the published LCNs were too low.
Mind you, it never occured to anyone to let the tyres down a bit! I suspect that such a notion would simply not have been countenanced.
Did you know that the Belfast mainwheel tyre was the same size as the B-50 nose tyre? One of our aircraft blew four or five tyres landing at a SAC base in the USA one day. They managed to swop enough tyres around to get it on to the ramp. It then looked like they were in for a bit of a wait while they waited for the replacement tyres to be flown from UK.
An enterprising USAF Staff Sergeant in stores made the B-50 connection and found someone who had hundreds of them still in his store. The replacements were delivered in just a few hours!
As for being a great stopper and a poor goer, I could not agree with you more! The DC-10 was exactly the opposite.
Hockham Admiral:
Further to my last; your quoting "lowering" the tyre pressure to 120 psi got my curiosity so I have just dragged out my old Pilots Notes.
The normal tyre pressures quoted therein are:
Nose: 140 psi
Main: 120 psi
Tail: 100 psi
So if you lowered the mains to 120 psi, what pressure did Heavylift usually use?
Many thanks for that. I flew the old girl for 6 years with the original owners and I do remember that we had to pay a lot of attention to LCNs. We often had to get permission from the airfield owners to let us in on a temporary basis when the published LCNs were too low.
Mind you, it never occured to anyone to let the tyres down a bit! I suspect that such a notion would simply not have been countenanced.
Did you know that the Belfast mainwheel tyre was the same size as the B-50 nose tyre? One of our aircraft blew four or five tyres landing at a SAC base in the USA one day. They managed to swop enough tyres around to get it on to the ramp. It then looked like they were in for a bit of a wait while they waited for the replacement tyres to be flown from UK.
An enterprising USAF Staff Sergeant in stores made the B-50 connection and found someone who had hundreds of them still in his store. The replacements were delivered in just a few hours!
As for being a great stopper and a poor goer, I could not agree with you more! The DC-10 was exactly the opposite.
Hockham Admiral:
Further to my last; your quoting "lowering" the tyre pressure to 120 psi got my curiosity so I have just dragged out my old Pilots Notes.
The normal tyre pressures quoted therein are:
Nose: 140 psi
Main: 120 psi
Tail: 100 psi
So if you lowered the mains to 120 psi, what pressure did Heavylift usually use?
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I'm not familar with Belfast performance but if memory serves my right you can expect Belfast to do Prestwick-Muscat direct with half load and even Prestwick-Colombo with nil load. Why they going thru Malta?
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Yes you are correct! The normal pressures were 120 main and the Flight Manual (I don't know where that came in to being from, but thought it was directly from the RAF manuals) recommended 100psi for the reduced LCN's. As you can probably guess a lot of the places we went would adjust accordingly if it was a commercial necessity to get into the field...or we paid enough!
Ah, days of the Falklands, Disasters, Wars (anyones!), French Strikes, before the 124..............we enjoyed them all..........it was all a grand adventure and I only hope the "few" enjoy themselves as much as we did!
Cargo 1,
I wish! In fact STN- BAH could take up to 13 hours.............empty!
So PIK-Muscat would be at least 16. About the maximum I ever did in "The Queen" (of the Skies) was 14.55 Ascension-BZZ
Pls keep the stories coming!
Yes you are correct! The normal pressures were 120 main and the Flight Manual (I don't know where that came in to being from, but thought it was directly from the RAF manuals) recommended 100psi for the reduced LCN's. As you can probably guess a lot of the places we went would adjust accordingly if it was a commercial necessity to get into the field...or we paid enough!
Ah, days of the Falklands, Disasters, Wars (anyones!), French Strikes, before the 124..............we enjoyed them all..........it was all a grand adventure and I only hope the "few" enjoy themselves as much as we did!
Cargo 1,
I wish! In fact STN- BAH could take up to 13 hours.............empty!
So PIK-Muscat would be at least 16. About the maximum I ever did in "The Queen" (of the Skies) was 14.55 Ascension-BZZ
Pls keep the stories coming!
That sounds about right; Brize - Masirah was 15½ hours (with very little in the back).
I find it quite fascinating that G-HLFT is the one that has survived. She was originally XR365 "Hector" and was probably the most cantankerous of the fleet. She was known by all as "Silly Old Hector" (from the kids TV show) and the best advice was never to go flying unless her black nose was wet.
What used to fascinate me was that half of the 'B' Defects would disappear during a sector and then another half a dozen would come out of the woodwork before next landing!
I am totally fascinated by the reports that work is going on to get G-BEPS airborne again. She was the first Belfast to fly (apart from the prototype) bearing a civilian registration. From my logbook the date was 14 February 1978, the place was Manston and Heavylift hadn't even been invented!
I find it quite fascinating that G-HLFT is the one that has survived. She was originally XR365 "Hector" and was probably the most cantankerous of the fleet. She was known by all as "Silly Old Hector" (from the kids TV show) and the best advice was never to go flying unless her black nose was wet.
What used to fascinate me was that half of the 'B' Defects would disappear during a sector and then another half a dozen would come out of the woodwork before next landing!
I am totally fascinated by the reports that work is going on to get G-BEPS airborne again. She was the first Belfast to fly (apart from the prototype) bearing a civilian registration. From my logbook the date was 14 February 1978, the place was Manston and Heavylift hadn't even been invented!