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From: Middlesesx
Koda 707
There was a lot on Freight Dogs regarding this and C j-B (pilot) as I recall was given 15 years for his troubles as was the co-pilot given a similar sentence.
With regard to the a/c it is still at SEN but rumour is that it is due to move soon after a service.
With regard to the a/c it is still at SEN but rumour is that it is due to move soon after a service.
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From: The Valley Where the Thames Runs Softly
For the record, CB-J and Peter Carine were each given 20 years, with a minimum time served of two-thirds before parole is considered, i.e. just over 13 1/2 years.
I was at school with CB-J, and it is a bit awesome to think of him being inside until he is pushing 70 years old.
I was at school with CB-J, and it is a bit awesome to think of him being inside until he is pushing 70 years old.
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From: farrrr east
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From: Middlesesx
Thanks for that a good set of photos. I was at SEN today and all that we await now is for something to happen to the venrable B707 HZ-123. One rumour relates to it going to Florida to a museum as I have been told it was the No6 production model. Unless anyone can confirm I believe it is stored on behalf of BAe systems that payed for its C check over three years ago. But who owns it now ?
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HZ123:
I have just looked in an old B707 book of mine and there is no way that your namesake can be the 6th production model. She is a 707-138B, made her first flight on 20/3/59 and was delivered to QANTAS as c/n 17696 VH-EBA on 16/7/59.
The first production aircraft was a 707-121 c/n 17586 N708PA first flight 20/12/57 and delivered to PanAm on 30/11/58.
So, there were at least 100 707s built before they got round to HZ-123.
I seem to remember that QANTAS was one of the few airlines that bought this model. It was virtually a 320B but with the short fuselage. I was once told that they opted for this long-range version because the runway in Bahrain was only 7000 ft long and that was too short for a 320B.
Great things these old books; it's not often that I get a chance to be a complete anorak!
I have just looked in an old B707 book of mine and there is no way that your namesake can be the 6th production model. She is a 707-138B, made her first flight on 20/3/59 and was delivered to QANTAS as c/n 17696 VH-EBA on 16/7/59.
The first production aircraft was a 707-121 c/n 17586 N708PA first flight 20/12/57 and delivered to PanAm on 30/11/58.
So, there were at least 100 707s built before they got round to HZ-123.
I seem to remember that QANTAS was one of the few airlines that bought this model. It was virtually a 320B but with the short fuselage. I was once told that they opted for this long-range version because the runway in Bahrain was only 7000 ft long and that was too short for a 320B.
Great things these old books; it's not often that I get a chance to be a complete anorak!
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From: Arizona USA
JW411,
The 707-138B has not much in common with the -320B, except the engines.
-121 modified wing with additional center tank fuel, and a shorter fuselage, approximately a foot shorter than a 720.
Maximum all economy seating of 166.
Having said this, it had a twelve hour endurance, quite a long way for the time.
Built specifically for QF.
Personally flew these for awhile, good airfield performance.
The 707-138B has not much in common with the -320B, except the engines.
-121 modified wing with additional center tank fuel, and a shorter fuselage, approximately a foot shorter than a 720.
Maximum all economy seating of 166.
Having said this, it had a twelve hour endurance, quite a long way for the time.
Built specifically for QF.
Personally flew these for awhile, good airfield performance.
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From: Middlesesx
Thanks for interesting info and it does at least provide a thread with the Quantas rumour.
Zalt ; It was alleged that the refurbishment of the a/c by BAe was part of a part exchange deal involving purchase of Hawk trainers for the Saudi Air Force. Perhaps someone can confirm.
The other issue for those that do not know the a/c is it is reputed to have been the personal a/c for the Saudi Ambassador to the USA primarily and secondary for use by the Saudi Ambassador to the UN. Any futher info much appreciated and I accept it has nothing wat soever to do with F dogs.
Zalt ; It was alleged that the refurbishment of the a/c by BAe was part of a part exchange deal involving purchase of Hawk trainers for the Saudi Air Force. Perhaps someone can confirm.
The other issue for those that do not know the a/c is it is reputed to have been the personal a/c for the Saudi Ambassador to the USA primarily and secondary for use by the Saudi Ambassador to the UN. Any futher info much appreciated and I accept it has nothing wat soever to do with F dogs.
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From: Europe
MSN : 17696
LINE : 29
A/C TYPE : B707-138(B)
ENG. TYPE : JT3D-1 (Q)
DEL. DATE : 07/16/59
LAST KNOWN OPERATOR (OWNER) : ROYAL EMBASSY OF SAUDI ARABIA
REG. NO. : HZ-123
SELCAL : AC-GJ
PREV. REG. : N31239, VH-EBA, CF-PWV, N138TA, N220AM, N138MJ
COMMENTS : STD @ SEN IN GOOD CONDITION
LINE : 29
A/C TYPE : B707-138(B)
ENG. TYPE : JT3D-1 (Q)
DEL. DATE : 07/16/59
LAST KNOWN OPERATOR (OWNER) : ROYAL EMBASSY OF SAUDI ARABIA
REG. NO. : HZ-123
SELCAL : AC-GJ
PREV. REG. : N31239, VH-EBA, CF-PWV, N138TA, N220AM, N138MJ
COMMENTS : STD @ SEN IN GOOD CONDITION
