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Old 22nd Jul 2014, 18:02
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CL44-O N447FT

OFFICIAL-READ ALL ABOUT IT!

Not our word but that of the official powers that be.
All contained in our Newsletter which will hit the streets next week.
So its now official despite all the Ozzie and Yankee gossip. To get your copy
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Old 24th Jul 2014, 15:13
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And the news is?
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Old 24th Jul 2014, 17:03
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I could never quite understand what was so wonderful about N447T. It certainly did have a voluminous cargo bay but the arse-end was about 12 feet above the ramp.
I can remember parking alongside N447T (when she was with TMAC) in my Belfast. the TMAC captain and F/O came over and had coffee with us upstairs on the flight deck. They were trying to unload a large 6-wheeled oil industry seismic truck (which weighed a lot) and the last 12 feet down to the ramp was proving rather difficult and time consuming.
As far as I can remember, they had no less than 7 pieces of ground equipment involved in the unloading process. Two GPUs were attached to the nose jacking points to stop it from sitting on its arse whilst at the back, two large forklifts were supporting the HILO which wasn't strong enough to take the weight of the truck.
Whilst all this was going on we sat there drinking our coffees reflecting with the TMAC crew just how difficult life could be. Meanwhile, the rest of the world was driving up and down our ramp with no difficulty at all. (Our usual load into Tehran was an awful lot of Chieftain tank gearboxes. I was told that the locals couldn't get them out of 2nd gear so they didn't bother - with the inevitable results).
Of course, the other problem with the CL-44 was that it needed a start-cart whereas the belfast had electric start.

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Old 24th Jul 2014, 19:50
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Belfast

JW- Whats the state of the Belslow at Cairns?
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Old 25th Jul 2014, 10:24
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I have absolutely no idea. I got mildly involved on the periphery of a possible Canadian deal last year and did suggest that they were looking at the wrong aircraft for what they needed it to do. I would imagine it came to nothing.
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Old 28th Jul 2014, 10:35
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CL44 ASSOCIATION-MEMBERSHIP

The Association is looking for new members who may be able to assist in its
forthcoming endeavours -no previous experience needed-but helpful
Reply to this address in the first place-thanks
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Old 30th Jul 2014, 07:21
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Belfast

The Belfast is still parked near the fire station in Cairns. Seems to be in reasonable shape. Engines ran a few weeks ago. Not dead yet..!
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Seems there is again some work done on N447FT..... Engines run again.
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Any news of the Belfast?

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Old 24th Jun 2018, 10:33
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Belfast was also being worked on untill recently. Imcuding engine runs.
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Belfast and CL44 engines RR Tyne do not have Type certificate a quick check on the internet/EASA/FAA websites nor Manufacturers support. The Belfast Type Certificate cancelled by EASA/British CAA big red writing over the type certificate CANCELLED ( in red ). Neither aircraft have any current crews and doubt you would find any type rated crew left let alone willing to have a fly. The aircraft must be a rich boys dream or a con job/fraud on investors ? Investors putting in money at the assurance of the engineers/mechanics saying they can get the two aircraft flying, just to take the investors money and skim off the top or maybe purely have someone else pay for their hobby ?......
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 10:50
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4 Holer,
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wasn't that Belfast part of your Fleet at one stage?
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Old 26th Jun 2018, 15:03
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No Bear just a poor old cargo pilot from Miami... but know a British guy at Flybe who worked at old Heavylift UK ???
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Old 27th Jun 2018, 07:01
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Always there are replies like this, type certificate withdrawn, no support for the engines etc.... But still there is work done on both frames so imo it seems that not all is that negative....

Tynes are still suppored btw. Alantique and Transall are still flying powered by them.
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Not being negative just stating regulatory facts in this day and age compliance is the word and these aircraft cannot comply for commercial ops...... The RR Tyne is only supported for Military operations and no longer for the civilian type certificate. In any case Germany etc have removed the aircraft mentioned from Military service.
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Not being negative just stating regulatory facts in this day and age compliance is the word and these aircraft cannot comply for commercial ops...... The RR Tyne is only supported for Military operations and no longer for the civilian type certificate. In any case Germany etc have removed the aircraft mentioned from Military service.
Not quite ... Germany and France still have a few Transalls flying.
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Well, it's 40 years now since I last flew a Belfast but I seem to remember that the model of Tyne we had fitted was not compatible with any other Tyne.
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the Andovers managed for a few years in africa with a Dart variant that was never civil certified i believe !
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Well, it's 40 years now since I last flew a Belfast but I seem to remember that the model of Tyne we had fitted was not compatible with any other Tyne.
Because ours had water methanol injection, JW.
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