Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Freight Dogs
Reload this Page >

DHL Air UK/LEJ ASSESSMENT

Freight Dogs Finally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.

DHL Air UK/LEJ ASSESSMENT

Old 3rd Jun 2019, 10:16
  #161 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why should I? I know what will happen with DHK after Brexit and that's all I care about.
EAM is offline  
Old 3rd Jun 2019, 18:48
  #162 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Palmas
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Since there's been some recent activity in the thread thought I'd ask. What the estimate time to command for someone joining with less than 1000hrs but previous jet experience (500 in my case)? Seems they removed the 757 option, is the a300 limited to more experienced applicants?
Hawker400 is offline  
Old 3rd Jun 2019, 20:06
  #163 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wrong company/thread, this is about DHL Air UK, we do not have A300, just 757 and 767. The A300 are with EAT, but both companies require at least 3000h total, with around 300h a year it will take you quite some years.
EAM is offline  
Old 3rd Jun 2019, 20:15
  #164 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Palmas
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EAM
Wrong company/thread, this is about DHL Air UK, we do not have A300, just 757 and 767. The A300 are with EAT, but both companies require at least 3000h total, with around 300h a year it will take you quite some years.
Ah apologies, Was thinking the LEJ was the Leipzig outfit merged into this thread. Had a feeling about the time to upgrade. Thanks for confirming, definitely something to consider on my side.
Hawker400 is offline  
Old 3rd Jun 2019, 22:10
  #165 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Amantido
Posts: 866
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by EAM
Wrong company/thread, this is about DHL Air UK, we do not have A300, just 757 and 767. The A300 are with EAT, but both companies require at least 3000h total, with around 300h a year it will take you quite some years.
No seniority?
Banana Joe is offline  
Old 4th Jun 2019, 08:50
  #166 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
@Hawker, no worries, just to make sure you are aware that there are 2 different companies both with Leipzig base.

@banana joe, there is kind of seniority, but in DHK command is not purely based on seniority.
EAM is offline  
Old 18th Jun 2019, 14:43
  #167 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Room 506
Posts: 68
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Im thinking about applying for DHL Air UK, and was wondering what the lifestyle is like at the moment. Are they offering a fixed roster pattern?

Currently SFO on long haul. Do they use seniority to dictate who gets to fly 767 (777 in a few years), and for upgrade?

Piece of string question... But traditionally, how long has the wait been for a shot at command? And is it a fair process?

Cheers
TT
Tricia Takanawa is offline  
Old 18th Jun 2019, 22:00
  #168 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: cambs.
Age: 60
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It all depends on your current hours, I see youíre currently flying L/H so if you meet the 3000 minimum then providing you get a tick in the box on your sims you could in todayís climate be looking at a Crack at it in under two years. As for the fixed roster that is seniority based however youíd have a better chance if you were LEJ based rather than EMA, itís known as the 9 n 5 which actually works out 8 n 6 in reality but itís not available to 76 long haul crews. As for the 777......please tell me more???
captbod is offline  
Old 19th Jun 2019, 09:21
  #169 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think most of it is already answered in this thread.
Yes there is a fixed pattern and you can get on it after 1 year, 9n5 and as captbod says, unlikely to get in EMA.
For the command as already mentioned, 2 years and all the boxes ticked, at the moment around 3 years, but I guess it might be more in the next years.
Everything is seniority based, but not only on seniority.

The 777 should be here in 2021/22 taking over the A330 flights.
EAM is offline  
Old 19th Jun 2019, 21:05
  #170 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We are doing a lot of commands at the moment, but I don't think this will continue for much longer. If you join today it would be at least 2 years, but unless we are getting more a/c I guess the guys who will have their command in the next 2 years will be enough to cover the retirements.
So, 2-3 years at the moment, but I think that is very optimistic for the future, but hey, its DHL and you never never know. ;-)
EAM is offline  
Old 16th Jul 2019, 18:59
  #171 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes, that option is still available. Basic salary with 1,2€ flight duty pay according current exchange rate.
EAM is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2019, 19:53
  #172 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: UAE
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Guys I am looking at my package and its saying 12/12 or 11/12 I was reading it as 12 on 12 off or 11 on 12 off have I understood it correctly? Everyone seams to be talking about 6/5 and so on.

Cheers
flyingmeatball is offline  
Old 16th Aug 2019, 06:45
  #173 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Uncertain
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hi meatball,

Basically, depending on your commute as a new joiner, you can be offered a part time contract as part of a zonal policy in order to help mitigate Fatigue. This particular deal is only available to Experienced joiners and not LEP/Cadets.

So anything along those lines (10/12, 11/12s etc...) means that if you take your work and divide it by 12 and multiply it by 10 or 11, thatíll be your total work for the year. Youíll still be on a flexi contract but whereas the normal full time flexi roster has around 10 days off per month on it, expect a couple more each month.

In terms of pay (in the uk at least!), it doesnít make too much difference really due to tax.

Hope this helps!

hobnobanyone is offline  
Old 16th Aug 2019, 08:59
  #174 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you move and live in Leipzig you will be offered a full time contract, 12/12. If you want to commute you will be offered a part time contract 11/12 or 10/12.
After 1 year you can apply for the block roster, full time or part time, which is 9/5 9days on 5 days off.
EAM is offline  
Old 16th Aug 2019, 14:39
  #175 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: uk
Posts: 945
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hereís another way of looking at it.

For every month of your contract you Ďearní 10 OFF days and 3.5 days leave. So a full contract (12/12th) gets 42 days leave and 120 OFF days distributed through the year (total 162). A 10/12th contract has 61 part time days off (2/12x365), gets 100 OFF days and 35 days leave, so after 35 days leave there are 161 days off to be distributed over the whole year (total 196).

Hope this helps.

dh

ps still trying to work out who EAM and hobnob are!!


Last edited by deltahotel; 16th Aug 2019 at 15:04.
deltahotel is offline  
Old 16th Aug 2019, 18:21
  #176 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by deltahotel
ps still trying to work out who EAM and hobnob are!!

Same here, trying to work out who dh is. ;-)
EAM is offline  
Old 16th Aug 2019, 18:30
  #177 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: uk
Posts: 945
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
EAM

Donít think itís that hard!

DH
deltahotel is offline  
Old 16th Aug 2019, 19:24
  #178 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: UAE
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks for the clarification just trying to figure out how many schnitzels I can get down in a year
flyingmeatball is offline  
Old 17th Aug 2019, 11:14
  #179 (permalink)  
EAM
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Somewhere in time
Posts: 649
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by deltahotel
EAM

Donít think itís that hard!

DH

I can say the same, actually it is quite easy.
I know about working conditions in DHK AND EAT, so who is that? ;-)
EAM is offline  
Old 18th Aug 2019, 21:08
  #180 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Palma
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Questions:

- How is the salary on fixed roster and part time ?
- How is the working atmosphere in Leipzig ?
- Time to command ?

Thanks
Time4You is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.