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DHL Air UK/LEJ ASSESSMENT

Old 28th Jan 2017, 12:53
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Reveal1 :

I am invited 8'th of February and at EMA. You are right about some test an group exercise.

Have you been to the first assessment and can you tell me about your day?

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Old 1st Feb 2017, 14:46
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Hi Jay_solo

Thx. i really don't know what the process is. Only thing I know is it will be test and group work. And when i asked about what to prepare the answer was "fail to prepare - prepare to fail"



About me:

300 total flight hours and 440 include sim.
fineshed my rating summer 2016 on A320 (I've applied for Aer Lingus and waiting for an interview after I've done the two independent online test they send me)

Best of luck
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Old 1st Feb 2017, 20:25
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unless it hasn't changed recently, it is an interview with a Cpt and someone from HR. All very fair. Rule number one, know your aircraft, rule two: don't make up anything if you don't know the answer, you are not supposed to know everything.

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Old 2nd Feb 2017, 01:40
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Rule three - don't turn up if you haven't thought the working in Leipzig thing through. Good luck.
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Old 3rd Feb 2017, 20:20
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The Merovingian__

Thx for taking the time to explain the day. Unfortunately the notice is very short.
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Old 10th Feb 2017, 13:14
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May I ask where you guys applied, I applied to dhl aero back in April 2014 I regularly update it no joy as if yet, how about going in person to east mids , any ideas
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Old 11th Feb 2017, 00:38
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May I ask where you guys applied, I applied to dhl aero back in April 2014 I regularly update it no joy as if yet, how about going in person to east mids , any ideas
This is EAT, nothing to do with DHL UK, Two different Companies.
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Old 14th Feb 2017, 10:17
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am willing to do anything to get a job, work for free and pay for type rating, been looking for airline employment now for 5 years totally sick of it,
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Old 14th Feb 2017, 10:19
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i have kept my self current , its ust a shame our industry is what it is,

i would self sponsor everything and work on a voluntary basis
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 11:45
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am willing to do anything to get a job, work for free and pay for type rating, been looking for airline employment now for 5 years totally sick of it,
I honestly hope you will look for an airline job for another decade or more.....
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Old 16th Feb 2017, 16:09
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My last job was as an FE on the A300-B4 and redundancy was the best thing that happened.

Ground job for 3 years then fully retired. You find out what your bed is for when it's dark
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 00:49
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sr71bbc - if your comments are genuine then I would ask you to take your talents into an industry other than aviation, your attitude serves only to damage the lives of professional aviators.
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Old 17th Feb 2017, 21:56
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anyone else can share what is expected in an assessment? anyone attended in last few months?
all little details much appreciated, please PM or post here. Thank you!
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 18:19
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Yes please, details would be great !
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 20:14
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Originally Posted by Shutdownatpl View Post
anyone else can share what is expected in an assessment? anyone attended in last few months?
all little details much appreciated, please PM or post here. Thank you!
Hi Shutdownatpl

I'm going for that assessment on 16th march in EMA. What about you? Do you have any answers what we may expect?
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 12:54
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Secondhand info ....

Initial interview:

Basic knowledge of DHL, including company mission, company slogan. Usual questions, no "gotchas" to speak of.

One part was a chain math calculation, something like 7 + 12 x 9 and so on. Get one operation wrong, you get the whole thing wrong, under time pressure.

Another part was a team exercise similar to this one: http://mathforum.org/alejandre/ZinObelisk.pdf

This exercise is done under observation, and it's meant to show your aptitude for working as part of a team.

You might profit by playing a few of these, since practice improves performance. The exercise teaches you how to do CRM better anyway, not just for getting past a check with DHL. You will find that you need a leader and an assistant or co-leader, when care must be taken to get information from all participants. If you go into this thinking that you are going to show the observer that you are a real strong leader ... that is not what they are looking for.

Past that comes a sim assessment in a DHL-configured 757 with aircraft set for takeoff at Luton on RWY 26. Match 2B SID to BPK, procedural ILS 26 to a full stop. EFIS in raw data (no flight director), EHSI in VOR mode. No autopilot, flight director or autothrottle.

That's the first part. Second part may consist of:

2 engine go-around

2 engine visual

2 engine NDB/DME RWY 26 Luton.

Asymmetric flying exercises

Engine failure on take-off, single engine ILS, full stop landing

If you get past the first interview then you will get an e-mail with an info pack attachment including LIDO plates for Luton, and a set of profiles showing DHL SOPs for the Boeing 757.

I would suggest downloading the guide to LIDO charts and plates: https://www.ivao.aero/training/docum...ido_charts.pdf

Third-hand account of a recent sim check: low-pressure, only 30 minutes, no NDB approach. I would not count on each ride being that easy, of course. This one may have been for a guy of exceptional ability with a good personality who nailed each point being assessed. We should all be so lucky!

The offer is for a job with DHL UK, paid in pounds, but required to live within 90 minutes of Leipzig, Germany. (Leipzig and its surrounds are liveable, for the former East Germany. It's not going to be like Berlin, though!) Low but fair pay for the first few years as you pay off your TR on the B757, improving after that. About 300 hrs. per year; night flying; short trips with a break in the middle for the aircraft to be unloaded/loaded; and back to base, either home or an out station; perhaps as long as ten years to upgrade to command. It sounds as if it beats Ryanair, anyway! Working as a catamite in a Turkish steam bath might beat Ryanair, though ....

It says right in the info packet that you will be assessed on "your cockpit resource management, your knowledge of instrument flying procedures and your ability to recognize and learn from your mistakes." Going by that I think I would want to learn every detail of all charts provided that are associated with Luton, particularly if these LIDO charts are unfamiliar, as well as learning the various DHL SOPs. Get all of that down pat, and then the rest should just be a fair assessment of your ability, so "Good luck to all of you!"

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Old 21st Feb 2017, 14:35
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Thanks chucks for the time and feedback.
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 21:42
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Thank you for the feedback. Anyone know a website or something where I can practice this kind of maths ? Thank you
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Old 28th Feb 2017, 13:39
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Thanks for your feedback, it's very helpful.

Does anyone know what sort of questions are asked in the tech exam for type rated guys?

Thanks
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Old 12th Mar 2017, 23:00
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min 7 days or 14. no single days. if that is all you are worried about.
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