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From: Erehwon
I left them because I considered them unsafe - maintenance wise. Fans of Photoshop . . .
Management is acutely autocratic. It is not unknown to 'hang the messenger'.
Even operating into Afghanistan, when I asked whether we were insured or not, I only ever got one response 'Andrew will look after you'. Ask the surviving pilot of the MD11 crash in Shanghai how well Andrew looked after him.
BUT, they pay flightcrew on time (or did when I was there). There was (then) plenty of flying, but operating old aircraft (the DC10), at maximum ZFW into Africa, in the dark to some dodgy airports is statistically more hazardous than other types of operation.
It would be wise to consider it VERY carefully. It will pay the mortgage whilst you look for something else.
Best of luck.
Management is acutely autocratic. It is not unknown to 'hang the messenger'.
Even operating into Afghanistan, when I asked whether we were insured or not, I only ever got one response 'Andrew will look after you'. Ask the surviving pilot of the MD11 crash in Shanghai how well Andrew looked after him.
BUT, they pay flightcrew on time (or did when I was there). There was (then) plenty of flying, but operating old aircraft (the DC10), at maximum ZFW into Africa, in the dark to some dodgy airports is statistically more hazardous than other types of operation.
It would be wise to consider it VERY carefully. It will pay the mortgage whilst you look for something else.
Best of luck.
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From: Erehwon
Underperforming engines, up to 3% short of required N1, temp limiting out of SHJ etc.
Sods law states you'll lose one of the good ones and the remain 1.5 engines will take you to the scene of the accident.
These problems (and a host of others) are all attributable to 'mis-handling' by the crew . . .
SO, if it's ONLY max ZFW, then no problem because the performance is predicated on losing the critical engine - I'm at peace with that.
Sods law states you'll lose one of the good ones and the remain 1.5 engines will take you to the scene of the accident.
These problems (and a host of others) are all attributable to 'mis-handling' by the crew . . .
SO, if it's ONLY max ZFW, then no problem because the performance is predicated on losing the critical engine - I'm at peace with that.
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From: Erehwon
Not surprising they're temp limiting - agreed, especially at 45-50°C.
Surprising when one or more of the engines cannot achieve rated thrust at that ambient temperature (from the ODM) by up to 3%N1, which is a lot of power NOT to have.
Performance predicated on achieving ODM rated thrust at that temp and pressure.
. . . I know, I bit, but not everyone here understands exactly what was being said.
Surprising when one or more of the engines cannot achieve rated thrust at that ambient temperature (from the ODM) by up to 3%N1, which is a lot of power NOT to have.
Performance predicated on achieving ODM rated thrust at that temp and pressure.
. . . I know, I bit, but not everyone here understands exactly what was being said.
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Ask the surviving pilot of the MD11 crash in Shanghai how well Andrew looked after him.
Surprising when one or more of the engines cannot achieve rated thrust at that ambient temperature (from the ODM) by up to 3%N1, which is a lot of power NOT to have.
It will pay the mortgage whilst you look for something else.
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From: Erehwon
If you take guidance from my spouse (and you've met her), she'd say she's been living with both of me for years 
Hope all is 'quiet' up your neck of the woods. The aftershocks hopefully are easing off a bit around Lincoln where our daughter lives.
We're both grandads too!
Enough . . .
Hope all is 'quiet' up your neck of the woods. The aftershocks hopefully are easing off a bit around Lincoln where our daughter lives.
We're both grandads too!
Enough . . .
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About the OO- AOC, I've heard they are going to register ONE Md 11 on OO registration and other aircraft still registated with the Zimbabwe registration. It all has to do with the crew duty time, apparently you can work longuer hours with the Z reg. Zimbabwe gouvernment does not correct their working hours for the time that you report for work. In other words, when you show up at midnight for duty, you can still work for 18 hours crewduty.
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From: Erehwon
Yes that's true. A lesson in flexibility I would say.
We had big issues about CDT when I was there and 'they' relented . . . just a little bit, as we had a CP with cojones. Quite soon afterwards he left and went to an airline.
If I were a cynic, I would probably say dispensation from the ZCAA is directly proportional to the size of the brown paper package he's clutching - rumour was that it contained his lunch . . . he was probably very hungry.
But since I'm not a cynic, I won't.
We had big issues about CDT when I was there and 'they' relented . . . just a little bit, as we had a CP with cojones. Quite soon afterwards he left and went to an airline.
If I were a cynic, I would probably say dispensation from the ZCAA is directly proportional to the size of the brown paper package he's clutching - rumour was that it contained his lunch . . . he was probably very hungry.
But since I'm not a cynic, I won't.
