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Air Charters Express DC-8

Old 30th Aug 2009, 12:15
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That's the old girl !!! By the way, she is AOK, flying at this moment, maybe with a scratch bum !!! But remenber guys, it is the venerable DC - 8, and a stretch DC - 8, stronger than any a/c around, even the russian flying logs !!!!! Also, ACE/Meridian from Oostende has never flown a DC - 8- 62, the 62 has nothing to do with the Oostende company other than being registered in Ghana. Fly safe guys !!!!!
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Old 31st Aug 2009, 19:03
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Many thanks to the many feed backs privately received. The picture I have now about this company can be summarized as:

1.You get cheated out of every single penny possible. If the owner can have you flying for free, you will make a perfect employee. He is not much of a people person.
2.They like to use many south Americans, special Peruvians mechanics as well as pilots, who are very company's people, kept in Europe illegal with no visas, willing to work for very little money, and deal breakers for the non-Latinos pilots.
3.It seems they have many tail strikes and even an engine pod somewhere in Afghanistan due to tired go getter pilots, south American bravado, bad loads.No Jeps updates. Bad paperworkds.
4.Company doesn't mind of eventual crashes which is forecasted pretty soon. It will mean more money to the owner.
5.Any pilot with a minimum self-respect should stay away.
6.However whatever left of your money will always hit your bank account on time
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Old 2nd Sep 2009, 17:37
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It is obvious they are using South American crews, as the B707 are almost inexistent and the DC-8's even in South America are vanishing.

So older pilots do not want to upgrade to newer aircraft because of the high cost and prefer to find place where they can continue flying an old bird.

In Europe you won't find any pilots anymore able to fly these birds (they all retired yet) and even in Africa it becomes a huge problem as most cargo-pilots who get a day older try to fly local pax flights.

It seems ACE is looking for other airframes to extend their fleet.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 22:15
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Fish Head on Final,

Strubbe, you're still on the Dinosaur-8? Working for Insein T is not a joke, people like Duane E are angels compared to him. Truth be told.... Anywho, enjoy her, fine piece of machine, sort of miss her....
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Old 19th Sep 2009, 05:03
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first a/c painted as Meridian Airways

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Old 22nd Sep 2009, 11:49
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Any more info?

I believe I am in the final cut for a Captain's gig at ACE and am seriously looking for any more info. that anyone has about them. If anyone has answers to the following questions I would be very grateful.

1) Do they lay over in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.?
2) Any idea what the schedule is like? #of days off, on call?
3) How do they treat their pilots?
4) Is there an employment contract? Can I bail if things are terrible?

The question I would really like answered is if this is a scum bag outfit that sh*ts on it's people or just low end of the scale? One I can take, the other I can not.

If anyone has any contacts with pilots at ACE they can share I'd be appreciative.

Many thanks

SK-8
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 10:06
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SK-8,

1)No lay overs in Afghanistan/Iraq
2)Not sure, but you might wanna fly as much as possible... $$$
3)Boss man threats you like $hit, but ignore him, he's a harmless clown.
4)Don't believe there's a binding contract, some have bailed on a 24h notice.

To answer your last question, it would fall into the lower end of the scale.

Other then that, don't believe it's a bad outfit, just not my "cup of tea" so to speak. PM me if you need feed back from some of the guys who are there and were there.
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Old 23rd Sep 2009, 17:43
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Hi Maurice!
True about the bossboy...if you take things to heart then you will not survive.Take everything with a bag of salt but one thing for sure is that what little salary you get it will hit your account on time every time! Some great guys in the company who love DC8's! Forgot to add...no contract..a handshake at the interview secures the job.
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Old 29th Sep 2009, 11:14
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1) Do they lay over in Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.?
2) Any idea what the schedule is like? #of days off, on call?
3) How do they treat their pilots?
4) Is there an employment contract? Can I bail if things are terrible
?

1. No. However you should consider yourself lucky anytime you make it out of there.
2. What's a schedule?
3. Pilot = necessary dirt
4. Extremely advisable.
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Old 29th Sep 2009, 16:51
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Countbat,

You obviously don't work for them.... Don't give mis/false information if you don't know. My info is correct, Mally can back that up.
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Old 1st Oct 2009, 12:02
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Everything above is correct. Maybe not descriptive enough though. pm me if you want some more detailed info etc...
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Old 2nd Oct 2009, 04:22
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Question

hey guys............
wat are the minimum requirement for F/O's..........
and any contact for hr???

BR
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Old 5th Oct 2009, 23:21
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Countbat,may I add to the questions asked, the following;
only if you are very unlucky you get to stay at the tent with airconditioning, Schedule? lolololololol specially with the expilot scheduling, he forgot what the life of a pilot is, Pilot = dirt, well not quite, but the guys they have seem to like it because many come from the worst scum bag operator in the world, ARROW AIR, and if you don't like it, bail out at the beginning of the month, around the 5 , when you know the pay is there unless you mind losing 5 days pay.
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 20:42
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Mal,

How many 8's has he got up an running now? Oh, ek het vir Fats jou cell foon nommer gegee....

See you at Denel!

Mooi bly!

Cheers!
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 05:45
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Hi MC!
4 in operation and 5th arriving next week. Awaiting to hear from Fats as well thanks.Will know about the Denel issue this week.
Safe flying and hope to see you down South!
Totsiens maat!
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Old 14th Nov 2009, 16:48
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Look at the panel and outside appearance of 9G-AXC, very nice indeed;



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Old 14th Nov 2009, 20:01
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Nice to see there are some REAL aircraft still flying.
That old DC 8 looks to be in good condition.
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Old 18th Nov 2009, 16:05
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Grrr Veteran Hawk

Hi Countbat, do you know if ACE operate under an AOC, ie do they take pilots over 65?
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 15:47
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They are former Airborne Express DC8s. aka ABX. Airborne had a fleet of about 38 dc8s at one time. These on here are some of the last to leave the property in Wilmington, Ohio.
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Old 29th Nov 2009, 18:15
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Bit hard to fly commercially with out an AOC, innit? So yes ACE/Meridian does fly under an AOC (Ghana AOC) and no, 65 you're out, where you should be, on retirement!
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