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Old 16th Jul 2009, 19:27
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Received the mail; seems we're back in business...for now.
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 10:42
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...and the word is they are about to get two more tired old sheds, ex AAI.
If MK are taking on a couple of extra aircraft, do you know it there are any plans to take back some of the crew they laid off then?
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 11:30
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If you are happy to fly for no pay - start tomorrow
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Old 21st Jul 2009, 16:41
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Would they not need at least some of their old crew back if they're getting two ex AAI aircraft and therefore start paying people again to get them back?
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 09:27
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Everybody has been paid in full, while it is not correct that people are paid late at least pay has beem forthcoming, which is not always the way in this industry. Intresting to see what happens this month.
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 17:06
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Thumbs down

Yes, everyone has been paid as of now. How can you say pay was not late when one bloke just got his pay yesterday? 3 weeks is late for pay already a month in arrears! And now word is 20% pay cut and will not be on time for the next round of pay either!
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 20:03
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Jeepers, Mk really dont deserve to be out of administration...
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Old 23rd Jul 2009, 22:22
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MK employees deserve better. MK management needs to be sacked because they are the ones that botched it. Maybe the MD should consider giving up his 500,000 USD salary along with the COO and DFO. Are they suffering? 20% pay cut will break some blokes! Too bad stupidity does not hurt!
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 10:05
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Lamb Shank try reading what I said at no time did I say that people were not paid late, what I stated was that it was wrong that people are dicked around for thier money at least they finally got it which is not always the case in this industry
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 10:22
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Question

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't AOC holders required by the authorities (in MK's case, the UK CAA) to have a certain amount of liquidity?
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 11:47
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Sorry friend, misread the thread!
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 14:03
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I understand that with effect from today all ground staff will be paid in proportion to how much flying the aircraft does. This is capped at a 20% reduction on their basic pay but is not capped on the upside if the aircraft flies more hours. Based on what hours the aircraft flew in the period May & June everybody will effectively take a 20% cut in salary unless business improves which is unlikely until probably September at the earliest. The staff have no choice, accept it or leave. (Hardly an investment in the loyal MK staff who have stuck with it through thick and thin!). Am not sure if this revised pay structure effects the aircrew. Not a happy situation.....
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Old 24th Jul 2009, 17:35
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Was it not the Belfairs Management Group who, through TransAtlantic, put the money in to get MK up again? I am sure somebody is going to be pissed about their investment.

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Old 24th Jul 2009, 18:00
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same management same outcome

They will continue to screw you for as long as you allow yourselves to be screwed. Your situation is the spitting image of your country’s (Zimbabwe) you are the Changari’s of aviation, the only question remains is how much of a beating are you prepared to endure?
Unforunately best thing here is to take the float devide amongst 3 and park the aircraft wherever you are. The Doc isnt gonna step in until he feels what you are feeling!! Good luck guys was a pleasure while it lasted!!
And to the rest of you that were never there let me tell you they are the best bunch of guys one could work with
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 01:30
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I wonder if they are too busy paying back the banks to have any money left over for the pilots
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 10:05
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Take legal action

Why not consult a good solicitor if you have a wages dispute? Take for ex. the advise on: http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...ml#post4759858

There you'll find a certain mr Kevin Bodley, maybe he can help? Besides he is the new MK Secretary now... wonder if he drives a BMW?

good luck...

p.s. why so much fuss about 20% Look at what the people who produce the flowers you are flying in are losing: their culture, their society, their water, there hope... and ern about a 1$ a day... watch:
http://cgi.omroep.nl/legacy/player?/...b.20090611.asf

and read http://allafrica.com/stories/200907201252.html

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 11:23
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Rumour around "The Farm" is one of the VIP crew has refused a flight now. Maybe all the crews should follow this example.

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Old 25th Jul 2009, 17:53
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What a shame or is that sham. Management can always justify spending money on their projects and in the same breath justify cutting your pay to pay for theirs!! Makes you wonder who they are listening to for all their wisdom. Oh well hang in their boys I'm sure they are looking out for your best interest. Are you sure Frank Lorenzo isn't running this airline. Maybe he has a room in the MD's house??!!
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 19:57
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If everyone (crews) would stick together, perhaps a message would get through to them. The problem I see is too many people are loyal to a fault and will fall on their swords to keep this airline going. Don't fly. Park the plane like the VIP crew did!
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Old 25th Jul 2009, 20:44
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80% of a salary is better than 0%. Blackmail or no blackmail. Airlines the world over are culling a lot more people.

MK could have implemented this a tad better though to put it mildly. But hey no HR department so are you suprised!!

A strike would be interseting though... would MK, PP and the Doc listen or would the Doc just shut it down as it is costing him a LOT of money right now.
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