Seeking Freight Dogs
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If anyone would care to check out the domain for the associated email (www.bellsouth.net) I think we can assume that this is some muppet on a wind up. It does not link to any recognisable website for a film company of any type.
I could just as easily set up an email drop on [email protected] .
Actually now that I think about it I'm looking to develop a film based on female pilots with large chests and how it could interfere with the c of g on freight aircraft.
Please send your photos to the above address.
I could just as easily set up an email drop on [email protected] .
Actually now that I think about it I'm looking to develop a film based on female pilots with large chests and how it could interfere with the c of g on freight aircraft.
Please send your photos to the above address.
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Has anyone called that number to find out who this is, or what the deal is?
bellsouth.net is a legit internet provider in the US; that being a personal email address, not a company one. Probably some low budget, or college film project?!
Just curious.
Anyway, you're not gonna get anyone (who cares about their tickets) to consent to this, as it is technically illegal to operate "electronic equipment" during critical phases of flight. So all those youtube wonders are floating around in grey area!
There was a commuter airline in the US recently, where the crew got in trouble for a posted video of an approach and landing. Nothing crazy, straight forward, normal approach and landing. I don't remember what caused the tipp off, but the Feds "were looking into the operation of unapproved electroninc devices" during critical phase of flight.
Not sure how this turned out.
But I don't think anyone is willing to risk their jobs, or whatever, just for 15 minutes of fame.
On the other hand, though, I could see a bunch of wanna bees who might have gone along with a buddy, or people who got washed out, to give all their expert insight into the world of freight doggin'.
As for controversy, there is no more, no less than with pax ops. The only difference, other than our parking locations, is that our pax don't complain as much.
bellsouth.net is a legit internet provider in the US; that being a personal email address, not a company one. Probably some low budget, or college film project?!
Just curious.
Anyway, you're not gonna get anyone (who cares about their tickets) to consent to this, as it is technically illegal to operate "electronic equipment" during critical phases of flight. So all those youtube wonders are floating around in grey area!
There was a commuter airline in the US recently, where the crew got in trouble for a posted video of an approach and landing. Nothing crazy, straight forward, normal approach and landing. I don't remember what caused the tipp off, but the Feds "were looking into the operation of unapproved electroninc devices" during critical phase of flight.
Not sure how this turned out.
But I don't think anyone is willing to risk their jobs, or whatever, just for 15 minutes of fame.
On the other hand, though, I could see a bunch of wanna bees who might have gone along with a buddy, or people who got washed out, to give all their expert insight into the world of freight doggin'.
As for controversy, there is no more, no less than with pax ops. The only difference, other than our parking locations, is that our pax don't complain as much.
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Check with this guy:
MySpace.com - CANEMAN.TV - 98 - Male - EARTH, California - www.myspace.com/canemantv
He is the ultimate, (but weird) freight-dog DC-8 Captain and more than willing to go on TV....
Another one of his video stunts.. MySpace Video - CANEMAN.TV's Video Channel & Video Clips
MySpace.com - CANEMAN.TV - 98 - Male - EARTH, California - www.myspace.com/canemantv
He is the ultimate, (but weird) freight-dog DC-8 Captain and more than willing to go on TV....
Another one of his video stunts.. MySpace Video - CANEMAN.TV's Video Channel & Video Clips
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He is the ultimate, (but weird) freight-dog DC-8 Captain
Freight Dogs have a dangerous career yet an interesting one. Many have to deal with decaying aircraft, shoddy maintenance, flagrant and safety-rule violations
get a whole new meaning: As far as I remeber Emery was was closed down with one of the reasons being poor maintenance.
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Check out Four Star Air Cargo in Puerto Rico, 1942 DC-3's, but they still have to comply with regs like everyone else. That is the closest you might get to a good show besides African bush.
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Yea, freight companies have to comply with the FARs . . . the problem is a lot of the time they DON'T and the FAA doesn't give a damn unless there's an accident or incident. I'm convinced that there's often a cozy relationship many times between the company and the POI & PMI.
The truth is that the freight companies' quality varies widely. Good companies like FEDEX, UPS, Atlas, etc. do a good job of taking care of their airplanes and crews and complying with regulations.
If you want to see the real scum, take a look at some of the so-called 36th Street freight outfits flying out of Miami or the small freight operators flying the light twins, etc. The problem is the managements will NEVER allow you an unfettered behind the scenes look, nor will the crews, for obvious reasons. You'll find the most colorful crews working for these guys. Some interesting personalities and lots and lots of stories to tell.
The truth is that the freight companies' quality varies widely. Good companies like FEDEX, UPS, Atlas, etc. do a good job of taking care of their airplanes and crews and complying with regulations.
If you want to see the real scum, take a look at some of the so-called 36th Street freight outfits flying out of Miami or the small freight operators flying the light twins, etc. The problem is the managements will NEVER allow you an unfettered behind the scenes look, nor will the crews, for obvious reasons. You'll find the most colorful crews working for these guys. Some interesting personalities and lots and lots of stories to tell.
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Forget the rules ... a good concept here being wasted by not thinking outside the box.
If you're going illegal go the whole hog
Move your production company from the USA to some crazy latin american country , find some adrenalin junky pilots and a publicity loving sponsor with a need to do brazen imports into the US , put the pilots in rubber masks of ex American presidents (like in Drop Zone) and get them to fly stolen jets (with the registration number annoyingly digitally blotted out) into the US at low level with US border , national gaurd and anti drug forces trying to catch them.
Alternatively after moving your company south of the border you can buy some old biz jets, the planes could be loaded up with something harmless like ponchos or hats or something , you could sell it as an 'independent documentary' on the effectiveness of the US border security.
That's something that would be worth watching but dont plan on returning to the USA for a while.
If you're going illegal go the whole hog
Move your production company from the USA to some crazy latin american country , find some adrenalin junky pilots and a publicity loving sponsor with a need to do brazen imports into the US , put the pilots in rubber masks of ex American presidents (like in Drop Zone) and get them to fly stolen jets (with the registration number annoyingly digitally blotted out) into the US at low level with US border , national gaurd and anti drug forces trying to catch them.
Alternatively after moving your company south of the border you can buy some old biz jets, the planes could be loaded up with something harmless like ponchos or hats or something , you could sell it as an 'independent documentary' on the effectiveness of the US border security.
That's something that would be worth watching but dont plan on returning to the USA for a while.
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Contact the guy that bought a Cessna Caravan in Thailand last year and tried to ferry it to Australia without filing a flight plan and then got intercepted by F-16s and forced to land in Singapore , maybe he videotaped the trip 
Singapore keeps Australian terror scare pilot - News - Travel - smh.com.au
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...intercept.html
Singapore keeps Australian terror scare pilot - News - Travel - smh.com.au
http://www.pprune.org/south-asia-far...intercept.html
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My point is this concept would never work for obvious reasons
The sector of the industry that operates like this is either a criminal minority who bully their staff or basically good people and previous lawabiders who have fallen on hard times and the pilots are trying to save their jobs also , none of whom wants a camera documenting it or get people to tell their stories that have nothing left to lose.
None of the above is good for aviation.
As for suggesting I should be murdered at birth , have a beer and relax a bit Norm.
The sector of the industry that operates like this is either a criminal minority who bully their staff or basically good people and previous lawabiders who have fallen on hard times and the pilots are trying to save their jobs also , none of whom wants a camera documenting it or get people to tell their stories that have nothing left to lose.
None of the above is good for aviation.
As for suggesting I should be murdered at birth , have a beer and relax a bit Norm.
smo-kin-hole,
Doggin' actually means something a bit different in the UK, so I am surprised that, if you have been doing it for 6 years, you think it would be boring TV!!
Been doggin' for 6 years and I can tell you that the battles in your head are far more frightening when the risks keep climbing, but that makes for crappy TV.
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well, you're brilliant aren't you
You may want to re-phrase your post, blatantly suggesting that the pilots would knowingly, willingly or unintentionally flying unsafe aircraft, etc. Basically saying they are knowingly fudging records, knowingly flying unsafe aircraft, or deliberatly being apart of such a racket. Do you realize what might happen to the pilots you're trying to recruit when you're "documentary" is finished? As I'm sure you'll do some creative editing to increase the shock factor and making look like the pilots or the outfit they fly for is anything less then professionally and ethically sound.
