Kalitta splits in two
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From: Navarre
It's probably too soon to speculate but I wonder what caused the crew to reject. If they heard a loud sound, could have been the fuselage breaking apart or something else? From the pictures, a very peliminary observation is that the aircraft broke along the splice lines. If it was structural, how many more of these older classics are there running around with questionable conditions? If the FAA and the NTSB look into this, a lot of carriers could get hurt. Part 26 was created just for this kind of situation, very old aircraft running around with potentially dangerous problems. I am afraid this could start the death knell for the grand old lady.
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From: Honolulu
You say it is too soon to speculate yet you continue and speculate on something that really makes no sense. I guess thats due to all the DC-8's, 727's, DC/MD 10's, Md-80's and 74's just falling out of the sky everyday.
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From: entebbe uganda
Kalitta
My opinion only , is this was an unfortunate incident whether the Airframe was 28 years young or not , going back to previous post MD-10/11 707, DC-8 etc etc makes no difference ,as long as there is MX and good MX
There should not be a problem
Like i said my opinion
There should not be a problem
Like i said my opinion
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From: Navarre
Agreed there. But how many "operators" out there are working on a shoestring. I am not putting Kalitta in that group, but there are a bunch of other 747 operators who are. If, and I say if, the investigations point to age and fatigue, you can bet your bottom dollar that there will be a of of dictates come down that would be very expensive. I would hate to see that. There is no other like the jumbo and in my book never will be, but alas, all great things must come to an end. Let's hope it isn't the last great three-man bird.
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From: Arizona USA
A little super glue and a lot paint. Connie will have it up and running in no time.
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From: Gone from the FL sun to the desert Oasis
Has there ever been a similar RTO accident that resulted in this kind
of aircraft damage??? I know the LH B747 went backwards down a
ditch, and was repaired, but I can not recall a plane splitting like this
before.
of aircraft damage??? I know the LH B747 went backwards down a
ditch, and was repaired, but I can not recall a plane splitting like this
before.
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From: Europe
Hi guys, I found some amateur footage of the evacuation procedure that particular day...
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redac...llscreen=false
I sure hope their rejected take-off actions (Thrust,Brakes,Speedbrake,Reverse) were performed a bit faster...
But no comment there, the crew did a good job.
Having done the freighter stuff for quite a few years out of Bru myself including the Bah and Dxb routes, I can confirm that Kalitta wasn't/isn't the only carrier with a full load for the US GI's.
The yellow banana's did it aswell.
I'm sure a local Bru operator just started off with 2 74' classics will be interested in some spareparts...
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/de.redac...llscreen=false
I sure hope their rejected take-off actions (Thrust,Brakes,Speedbrake,Reverse) were performed a bit faster...
But no comment there, the crew did a good job.
Having done the freighter stuff for quite a few years out of Bru myself including the Bah and Dxb routes, I can confirm that Kalitta wasn't/isn't the only carrier with a full load for the US GI's.
The yellow banana's did it aswell.
I'm sure a local Bru operator just started off with 2 74' classics will be interested in some spareparts...
Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...
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From: KLAX
Speaking of that A-340 incident. . . . I had recently heard that it was caused by the ground prox / ground shift cb (or such) being pulled to silence the annoying take off warning horn during it's engine run up test. Doing so put the aircraft into flight mode, releasing it's brakes.
I had also heard that this was done by the acceptance crew of the buying airline.
Anyone else hear this as the cause? Please excuse me if this was old news.
I had also heard that this was done by the acceptance crew of the buying airline.
Anyone else hear this as the cause? Please excuse me if this was old news.
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From: Europe
No time to deploy the thrust reversers?
Come on be serious... you must have had some reject procedure training at one time..?
Let's just wait until they come up with some official comment after they reviewed all the material shall we?
Afterall: job well done by the crew...but have you ever seen an aircraft split up like that?
Until then: Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...
Come on be serious... you must have had some reject procedure training at one time..?
Let's just wait until they come up with some official comment after they reviewed all the material shall we?
Afterall: job well done by the crew...but have you ever seen an aircraft split up like that?
Until then: Any landing you can walk away from is a good one...
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From: US
If you get a piece of metal and bend or twist it for long enough, it will fracture. Simple. The trick is to find where that piece of metal has decided to begin to fracture, before it actually does.
I have a feeling in my gut, that it was extremely fortunate for a lot of poeple, the crew heard the bang before V1.
I have a feeling in my gut, that it was extremely fortunate for a lot of poeple, the crew heard the bang before V1.