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Old 13th Oct 2008, 13:44
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Old 14th Oct 2008, 10:52
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It appears that both 748's have now departed Liverpool for Blackpool.

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Old 14th Oct 2008, 19:34
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Why's That Then
For a dose of C&M no doubt, or more than likely so AMS can strip 'em!
Is it curtains for JAV Mk (whatever)? Who knows how much AJ wants to bleed on this one. They just can't shake off the legacy of the MO'B. Customers don't/wont forget..........tainted, or maybe rotten to the core.

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Old 14th Oct 2008, 19:59
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Yeh someone needs to wake up and smell the coffee.
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 11:32
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All I am trying to put across is that MOB like the rest of us had a boss who he worked for, adheared to and reported to.

The top notch of any Company holds the puppit strings and no one is that nieve.

At the end of the day AJ employed MOB for many years, not just a matter of months or weeks but infact a lifetime and if what you said where true then I am sure that would not of been the case.

Your views of what fellow customers think of MOB are infact incorrect .... and that is coming from the horses mouth.

People are interested to see the progress with Janes Aviation and are not really interested in tit for tat pointing fingers which as a reader is now boring.

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Old 17th Oct 2008, 11:55
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Maybe one problem is that of size.

Emerald was the largest operator of the HS748 in the World.

Now with only 2 aircraft currently 'ready to go', perhaps the previous client base perceives this as a problem?

Additionally, there is no way they could take on large contracts, again through lack of aircraft (and currently crews as there appears to be no sign of TRTO approval?).

Janes Aviation seems to be hoping to pick up where Emerald left off.

Unfortunately the World has moved on and two years might prove to be too long in aviation in this respect.

I suppose to the outside world Janes is just Emerald under another name - same aircraft, same people and, it maybe assumed, same problems.

It's sad.

They thought it was all over with Emerald, maybe with Janes it is now?

Best wishes to all involved because it must have been one hell of a year!

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Old 17th Oct 2008, 15:22
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I agree AJ was MOB'S boss but AJ was always a sucker for bullsh1t and particularly from someone who spouted it from the rooftops. that said, given it was MOB's arrogance that cost AJ a business he built up from scratch over 20years ago
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Old 17th Oct 2008, 19:14
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At the end of the day AJ employed MOB for many years, not just a matter of months or weeks but infact a lifetime and if what you said where true then I am sure that would not of been the case.
The MO'B joined a business that was at least six years old and doing well. Twelve or thirteen years later, it was on its a**e. His doing. A lifetime, I think not. (By the way it's 'were' and 'have')

Your views of what fellow customers think of MOB are infact incorrect .... and that is coming from the horses mouth.
Please quantify 'fellow customer'. I wasn't one, were you? I stand by my comment that 'shafted' customers don't/wont forget. Which horse was it, remember MO'B held the reins on the operation.

People are interested to see the progress with Janes Aviation and are not really interested in tit for tat pointing fingers which as a reader is now boring.
What progress? The aircraft are parked. There's no tit for tat and, fingers don't need pointing, just follow your nose. AJ's seemingly undying faith in the MO'B has led him to p*ss an awful lot of money up the wall over the years.

You may have me down as some bitter and twisted ex JEM employee but, you'd be wrong, thankfully I have never worked for any incarnation of JAV.....

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Old 23rd Oct 2008, 05:47
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this threds pretty dead, is the airline alive or is that dead to?
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Old 26th Oct 2008, 21:28
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It would seem a certain ex emerald licenced engineer is now advertising the virtues of visiting the IOM.

if your reading ...Hello Keith
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Old 6th Nov 2008, 12:04
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Any news on the TRTO approval?

IM and OE in BLK having maintenance, i believe.

Shame that the potential Fraggle Rock customers were reluctant to commit. Obviously, they don't care if the Kippers go by slow-boat and newspapers that they read are yesterday's!

In time it will succeed
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 16:45
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Oh dear oh dear
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Old 8th Nov 2008, 16:56
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Anyone know whats going on then?
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Oh dear, oh dear is about the right comment really.

If the a/c are in BLK for maintenance, then I'm from Turkmenistan.

(Small hint, I'm not....)
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 16:33
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Do they have postcards in Turkmenistan?

Good luck with the JAN602 series which looks to be starting tonight!
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Old 10th Nov 2008, 16:47
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A white carpet is a symbol of good luck in Turkmenistan!
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Old 11th Nov 2008, 18:55
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JAN602? What flight is this then?
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Old 11th Nov 2008, 19:32
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Did STN-BFS this morning, and down for STN-EDI tonight. A Royal Mail route?
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Old 12th Nov 2008, 10:42
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Update

A quick update for all our fans.

Yes IM & OE have been at Blackpool for maintenance.

Yes we are flying a short series for the Post Office.

The TRTO process is still ongoing, with meetings with CAA in early December.


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