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Old 16th Nov 2001, 05:53
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Helicopter Pilots Get It Up Quicker
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Your aircraft was getting old when you were born...
You haven't done a daylight landing in the past 6 months...
ATC advises of smoother air at a different altitude and you don't give a toss...
When you taxi to up tp an FBO they roll out the red carpet but re-roll it when they reconise you...
You call the hotel bus and they don't understand which part of the airport you are on...
ATC asks you to "Keep the cattle down" so they can hear you speak...
Your aircraft has done more than 75,0000 cycles...
Your company call sign is 'Oil Can'...
The lady at the FBO locks up the coffe machine and removes the complimentary mints as it looks as if you are about to make a meal out of them...
Your aircraft has more than 8 faded company logos on it...
You wear the same shirt for a week and no one complains...
Every FBO makes you park out of sight of their building...
You walk bare footed throught the FBO because you've just woken up...
You mark every ramp with engine oil...
Everything you own is in your flight bag and suitcase...
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Old 16th Nov 2001, 13:53
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Is it not glamourous being a freight pilot then?

I bet many pilots fly over me and look down and say "I wish I was a civil servant"
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I don't know - never done it - but personally any flying is better than none in my book.

The text was forwarded to me and I thought I d share it - I thought it was mildy amusing...

...I m sure anyone - if they were so inclined - could compose similar for any type of pilot.
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Thanks for that. I passed it on to a few fellow dogs...
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Your company office is a mobile trailer at the side of the ramp...
You eat dinner for breakfast and breakfast for dinner...
ATC always asking for pireps because you're the first one through in 3 hrs...
You lost your sunglasses a year ago and haven't bothered to look for them...
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You wake up when the rest of the world goes to bed and go to work when the rest goes to sleep.
You smirk at all the american pilots asking for a ride report.
The cabin is never too cold or warm, always just right.
You never have to explain to anyone why there is a delay.
You're the one flying against the flow over the north Atlantic.
you're the one with the extremely wrinkled shirt because it doubles as your pajamas.
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You know you fly ACMI if:

-Your dog barks at you when you come home
-You have shirts in the cleaners on three continents
-You've never met your chief pilot
-You can convert dollars to won, yen, pesos, pounds, and francs in your head
-Your frequent flyer miles exceed your salary each year
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-you wake up on the hard shoulder of the highway when everyone else is tucked up in bed!
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When you can eat off of a dinner tray that's been sitting outside someone's room all
night.
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When you walk into the hotel bar wearing just a towel & flip flops !:
& feel over dressed !!!.

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None of you mentioned sleeping in the back of the plane, so I guess some companies are better than mine.
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If 9000', 2 miles final doesn't bother you
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it may all be true but rather a freight dog in flying around africa where booze it plentyful that a stuffy airline pilot who know what they will take home at the end of the month and your just cover house rent and the the rest is booze money who wants to fly for airways anyhow
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...you are cleared direct everywhere.
...you start to wonder what's wrong with ATC if you haven't got your landing clearance by 50 miles from the FAF.
...the first runway condition report of the day is given by: you.
...you have never disembarked your aircraft on to a jetway.
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this forum begs for a repeat:

As promised, here's a good cargo story: The Exploding Toilet and Other Embarrassments Not all mistakes are fatal. Some are worse. Remembering the blue volcano with Patrick Smith The old adage, however tired, defines the business of flying planes as long stretches of boredom punctuated by moments of sheer terror. Moments of sheer terror AND RIDICULOUSNESS, maybe, are equally as harrowing. One young pilot, when he was twenty-two and a flight instructor out at Hanscom Field, just west of Boston, and trying to impress the pretty Christine Collingworth by taking her up for a twilight sightseeing circuit in a friend’s Cessna, highlighted the seduction by whacking his forehead into the jutting metal pitot tube hanging from the 172’s wing. Earning himself a famous "Cessna dimple," so he chose to think, would be the stupidest thing he’d ever do in or around an airplane. That was more than a decade ago, and a long way from this same pilot’s mind during a recent cargo flight from San Juan, Puerto Rico, to Cincinnati. It’s eleven p.m. and the airplane, an old DC-8 freighter loaded with fifty thousand pounds of pineapples, is somewhere over the Bermuda Triangle. The night is dark and quiet, void of moonlight, conversation, and for that matter worry. The crew of three is mesmerized as usual by the calming drone of high-bypass turbofans and the deceptively peaceful noise of five-hundred knots of air cleaving past the cockpit windows. Such a setting, when you really think about it, ought to be enough to scare the living crap out of any sensible person. We have no business, maybe, being up there, participants in such an inherently dangerous balance between naïve solitude and instant death, distracted by paperwork and chicken sandwiches while screaming along, higher than Mount Everest and at the speed of sound, in a forty year-old assemblage of machinery. But such philosophizing is for poets, not pilots, and also makes for exceptionally bad karma. Neither poetry nor any kind of mystical rumination is in the job description for these three airmen, consummate professionals who’ve long ago sold their souls to the gods of technology and luck. One of these consummate professionals is a 34 year-old from Massachusetts. He’s been flying planes since he was 16, but has seen his career stray oddly from its from its intended course, his visions of flying gleaming new passenger jets to exotic ports-of-call have giving way to the much coarser world of air cargo — to sleepless, back-of-the-clock timetables, the greasy glare of warehouse lights and the roar of forklifts, realities that have aroused a low note of mild disappointment that rings constantly in the back of his brain. He gets up from the second officer’s seat and walks out of the cockpit, the door. Here he enters the only other area accessible to the pilots in flight, the small entryway alcove containing a lavatory, oven, cooler, and a life raft. His plan is simple enough — to get himself a Diet Coke, or, to be international about things, since we’re coming from the land of paycheck-fattening "override" pay and a king’s ransom worth of per diem, a Coca-Cola LIGHT, the extra-sweetened, less-carbonated version of our own domestic product. The soft drinks are in a cardboard box on the floor, a six-pack strapped together with one of those clear plastic harnesses so dangerous to sea turtles and small children. These plastic rings, he recalls, are banned at home, but apparently perfectly legal in Puerto Rico, where there are, of course, lots of sea turtles and small children. The pilot is thinking about this, weighing the injustices of the world, philosophizing, daydreaming, ruminating — things that, again, his manuals neither command nor endorse for perhaps good reason. He unstraps a Coke and decides to put the remaining ones in the cooler, where they are supposed to be in the first place. The cooler, a red, lift-top Coleman that you’d buy in Sears, sits in front of the lavatory and is packed with bags of ice. The pilot drops in the cans, but now the cooler will not close. There’s too much ice. One of the bags will have to go. So he pulls one out and shuts the lid. Decisions, decisions: which checklist do I initiate? Which shutoff valve do I yank closed? Which breakers do I pull? Which buttons do I press to keep us alive and this contraption intact? What to do, now, with an extra, sopping wet bag of ice? Well, the pilot will do what he ALWAYS does with an extra bag of ice. He will open the bag and dump it down the toilet. This he has done so often that the sound of a hundred cubes hitting the metal bowl is a familiar one. This time, though, for reasons he hasn’t realized yet, there are no cubes; or, more correctly, there is one huge cube. He rips open the bag, which is greenish and slightly opaque, and out slides a single block of ice, probably three pounds worth, that clatters off the rim and splashes into the bowl. There it is met, of course, by the caustic blue liquid one always finds in airplane toilets, that strange chemical cocktail that so efficiently, and brightly, neutralizes our usual organic contributions to bathroom plumbing. The fluid washes over the ice. He hits the flush lever and it’s drawn into the hole and out of sight. He steps out of the lav holding the empty bag and worrying still about the dangers of plastic rings, picturing some poor endangered hawksbill choking to death. It’s just not fair. And it’s now that the noise begins. The pilot hears a deep and powerful burble, which immediately repeats itself and seems to emanate from somewhere in the bowels of the plane. It’s similar to the sound your own innards might make if you’ve eaten an entire pizza or, perhaps, swallowed Drano. It grows louder. The pilot stops and a quick shot of adrenaline pulses into his veins. What was THAT? Then there’s a rumble, a vibration passes up through his feet, and from behind comes a loud swishing noise. He turns and looks at the toilet. But it has, for all practical purposes, disappeared, and where it once rested he now finds what he will later describe only as A VISION. In place of the commode roars a fluorescent blue waterfall, a heaving cascade of toilet fluid, thrust waist-high into the air and splashing into all four corners of the lav. Pouring from the top of this volcano, like smoke out of a factory chimney, is a rapidly spreading pall of what looks like steam. He closes his eyes tightly for a second, then reopens them. He does this not for the benefit of unwitnessed theatrics, or even to create an embellishing detail for eventual use in a story. He does so because, for the first time in his life, he truly DOES NOT BELIEVE what has cast itself before him.The fountain grows taller, and he sees now that the toilet is not actually spraying, but BUBBLING — a geyser of boiling, lathering blue foam and thick white fog. And suddenly he realizes what’s happened. It was not a block of ice, exactly, that he fed to the toilet. It was a block of DRY ice.To combine dry ice with ANY sort of liquid is to initiate the turbulent, and rather unstoppable, chemical reaction now underway in front of our unfortunate friend. The effect is similar to dumping water into a Fryolator, an exciting experiment those of you who’ve worked in restaurants have probably experienced. The boiling oil will have nothing to do with the water, discharging its elements in a violent surge of bubbles. Normally, on those rare occasions when the caterers employ dry ice, it’s packed apart in smaller, square-shaped bags you can’t miss. Today, though, an extra-large allotment was stuffed into a regular old ice cube bag — three pounds of solid carbon dioxide mixing quite unhappily with a tankful of acid. Within seconds a blue river begins to flow out of the lav and into the entryway, where a series of tracks, panels, and gullies along the floor split it into several smaller rivers, each leading away to a different nether region beneath the main deck of the DC-8. The liquid moves rapidly along these paths, spilling off into the corners and crevasses. It’s your worst bathroom nightmare at home or in a hotel, clogging up the shitter at midnight and watching it overflow. Except this time it’s a Technicolor eruption of flesh-eating poison, dribbling between the floor seams of an airplane at 33,000 feet, down into the entrails of the beast to freeze itself around cables or short out bundles of vital wiring. The pilot once read a report about a toilet reservoir somehow becoming frozen in the back of a 727. A chunk of blue ice was ejected overboard and sucked into an engine, causing the entire engine, pylon and all, to tear from the airframe and drop to earth. And the pilot knows his cataract is not going to stop until either the CO2 is entirely evaporated or the tank of blue death is entirely drained. Meanwhile, the white steam, the evaporating carbon dioxide, is filling the cabin with vapor like the smoke show at a rock concert. He decides to get the captain.Our captain tonight, as fate would have it, is a boisterous and slightly crazy Scandinavian named Jens. Jens is a tall, square-jawed Norwegian with graying, closely cropped curls and an animated air of fiery, charismatic cocksure. Jens’ is one of those guys who makes everybody laugh simply by walking into a room, though whether or not he’s trying to is never made entirely clear. He is sitting in the captain’s chair. The sun has set hours ago but he is still wearing mirrored Ray-Bans. "Jens, come here fast! I need your help." Jens nods to the first officer, unbuckles his belt and moves quickly toward the cockpit door. This is an airline captain, a confident four-striper trained and ready, whatever pretensions of insanity he might provide for the sake of a good time, for any assortment of airborne calamity — engine failures, fires, bombs, wind shear. What will he find back there? Jens steps into the entryway and is greeted not by any of a thousand different training scenarios, but by a psychedelic fantasy of color and smoke, a wall of white fog and the fuming blue witch’s cauldron, the outfall from which now covers the entire floor from the entrance of the cockpit to the enormous nylon safety net that separates the crew from its load of pineapples. Jens stares, then turns to his young second officer and puts his hand on his shoulder, a gesture that is one of both fatherly comfort and surrendering camaraderie, as if to say, "Don’t worry son, I’ll clean all this up," or maybe, "Down with the ship we go, my friend." Then he sighs, gestures toward the fizzing, angrily disgorging bowl and says, with a tone of surprisingly UNironic pride: "She’s got quite a head on her, doesn’t she?"But what can they do? And in one of those dreaded realizations pilots are advised to avoid, that insulation between cockpit calm and atmospheric anarchy looks thin indeed, the blue juice eating away at the thin metal barrier. An extrapolated vision of horror: the riveted aluminum planks bending apart, the wind rushing in, explosive and total depressurization, death, the first airliner — no, the first vehicle — in history to crash because of an overflowing toilet. Into the sea, where divers and salvage ships will haul up the wreckage, detritus trailing from mauled, unrecognizable pieces while investigators shake their heads. At least, he thinks, odds are nobody will ever know, the cold ocean carrying away the evidence. He’s good as dead, but saved, maybe, from immortal embarrassment. A dash of mystique awaits him, the same that met St. Exupéry at the dark bottom of the Mediterranean, another lousy pilot who got philosophical and paid the price. Maybe he blew up the toilet too. Probable cause: unknown. "Call flight control," commands Jens, hoping a dose of authority will enact some clarity into what is obviously and hopelessly absurd. "Get a patch with maintenance and explain what happened."He rushes back to the cockpit to call the company’s maintenance staff in Cincinnati. He fires up the high frequency radios, small black boxes that can bounce the human voice, and any of its associated embarrassments, up off the ionosphere and halfway around the world if need be. He will announce his predicament to the mechanics, but also to any of dozens of other airplanes who happen to be monitoring the same frequency. Even before keying the mike he can see the looks and hear the wisecracks from the Delta and United pilots in their state-of-the-art 777s, Mozart soothing their passengers through Bose headsets, flight attendants wiping down the basins, while somewhere in the night sky three poor souls in a Cold War relic are trapped in a blue scatological hell, struggling helplessly with a flood of excrement and chemicals. "You say the TOILET EXPLODED?" Cincinnati is on the line, incredulous but not particularly helpful. "Well, not sure. Should be okay. Nothing below the cabin there to worry about. Press on, I guess." Thanks.Jens has grabbed the extension wand for the fire extinguisher — a hollow metal pole the length of a harpoon — and is shoving it down into the bowl trying to agitate the mixture to a stop. Ten minutes have passed by now, and a good ten gallons have streamed their way onto the floor and beyond. Up front, the first officer has no idea what’s going on. Looking behind him, his view mostly blocked by the circuit breaker panels and cockpit door, this is what he sees: a haze of white odorless smoke, and his captain yelping with laughter and thrusting at something with a long metal pole. Our pilot stands aside, watching Jens do battle. This was a little kid who dreamed of becoming a 747 captain for Pan Am, the embodiment of all that was, and could still be, elegant and glamorous about aviation. And poor Jens, whose ancestors ploughed this same Atlantic in longboats, ravenous for adventure and conquest, a twenty-first century Viking jousting with a broken toilet.So it goes, and by the time the airplane touches down safely, it’s plumbing finally at rest, each and every employee at the Cincinnati cargo hub, clued in by the amused mechanics who received our distress call, already knows the story of the idiot who poured dry ice into the crapper. His socks and hundred-dollar Rockports have been badly damaged, while the cargo net, walls, panels and placards aboard N806DH are forever dyed a heavenly azure. The crew bus pulls up to the stairs, and as the pilots step on board the driver looks up and says excitedly, "So are you the guys with the toilet?" - coypright 2001 Patrick Smith
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Excellent !!!
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I haven't laughed out loud so much for a very long time. Excellent piece and many thanks
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Before Landing:

Yeah, I know Jens.
We went to flight school together in 1978.

Do you, or anybody have his e-mail address?

If so: The TowerDog resides on: [email protected]
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How about when you check into a hotel and they ask you were the rest of the crew is? Your answer, 'that's it'. To which you get a remark, to the likes of 'whow! now that's cutting back on costs!
At least we don't have to handle pax rage!
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When you get out of the cargo business, and subsequently feel it's the biggest mistake you've ever made...

When you forget to check in, and ATC doesn't seem to care...
When you wear sunglasses when it's a full moon...
When you get frightened when the sun starts to rise...
When there's never a line when you need to go to the lavatory...
When you get annoyed if you're Nr. 2 in traffic...
When you don't leave home without speedtape...
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