Cargolux Sells -400Fs
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Cargolux Sells -400Fs
Info below from another website.
What's the -8F delivery schedule? Does this end speculation of further, more rapid expansion at CLX?
At least they are going to an airline not in direct competition.
Cargolux freighters to join UPS fleet in 2009, 2010
With its international business continuing to grow, UPS has purchased three used Boeing 747-400 freighters from Cargolux. UPS expects to take delivery of two of the aircraft in 2009 and one in 2010. The new freighters will fly on global trunk routes between North America, Asia, Europe and the Middle East.
“This is a great opportunity to purchase used aircraft with commonality to the UPS fleet,” said 747-400 Implementation Manager J Barnes. “These aircraft will further improve operational efficiencies and economies of scale for UPS, maximizing our capacity and making the best use of our landing slots.”
From their front-loading nose to their General Electric CF6 engines, the three 747-400s are an exact match to the eight new production freighters that UPS is purchasing from Boeing.
The purchase price for the 747-400s is not being disclosed and UPS will not discuss specific financial arrangements.
The additions of the three aircraft fit into UPS’s fleet management strategy. The company is adding long-range lift to accommodate volume growth overseas and replace the soon-to-be-retired 747-100 and -200 fleets. The new -400s are also expected to fill in for the A380, after the announcement earlier this year that UPS intends to cancel its order for the Airbus superjumbos.
What's the -8F delivery schedule? Does this end speculation of further, more rapid expansion at CLX?
At least they are going to an airline not in direct competition.
Cargolux freighters to join UPS fleet in 2009, 2010
With its international business continuing to grow, UPS has purchased three used Boeing 747-400 freighters from Cargolux. UPS expects to take delivery of two of the aircraft in 2009 and one in 2010. The new freighters will fly on global trunk routes between North America, Asia, Europe and the Middle East.
“This is a great opportunity to purchase used aircraft with commonality to the UPS fleet,” said 747-400 Implementation Manager J Barnes. “These aircraft will further improve operational efficiencies and economies of scale for UPS, maximizing our capacity and making the best use of our landing slots.”
From their front-loading nose to their General Electric CF6 engines, the three 747-400s are an exact match to the eight new production freighters that UPS is purchasing from Boeing.
The purchase price for the 747-400s is not being disclosed and UPS will not discuss specific financial arrangements.
The additions of the three aircraft fit into UPS’s fleet management strategy. The company is adding long-range lift to accommodate volume growth overseas and replace the soon-to-be-retired 747-100 and -200 fleets. The new -400s are also expected to fill in for the A380, after the announcement earlier this year that UPS intends to cancel its order for the Airbus superjumbos.
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As far as I know the intention is for the first -800s to arrive fourth quarter 2009 and at regular intervals after that.
The agreed sales to UPS would fit with that timetable.
The agreed sales to UPS would fit with that timetable.
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I hear that the -8F's are the new black!
Well, lets get it into perspective. CLX does have, in its fleet, the very first B744F off the line, so how long in the tooth would it be? Rickety old PDU's, belly full of cattle piss...smart move if you ask me. Besides, up to this point, have any US freight haulers EVER bought 747's new? (Atlas excepted of course)
Well, lets get it into perspective. CLX does have, in its fleet, the very first B744F off the line, so how long in the tooth would it be? Rickety old PDU's, belly full of cattle piss...smart move if you ask me. Besides, up to this point, have any US freight haulers EVER bought 747's new? (Atlas excepted of course)
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Whilst -ICV may have been the prototype 400F first flying in 5/93, it sat in the desert for a couple of years whilst AF tried to sort out industrial relation problems surrounding the disappearance of the F/E and was not delivered to CLX until 9/95.
-FCV and -GCV were however delivered in late '93 and consequently have had their second D checks whereas -ICV has not yet done so.
Will these be the ones to go though? K and L are four years newer.
-FCV and -GCV were however delivered in late '93 and consequently have had their second D checks whereas -ICV has not yet done so.
Will these be the ones to go though? K and L are four years newer.
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Fair enough. I could have Googled it I suppose but, why Google, when you can Proon?
When you think about it, we don't get many of those big haulers down here...just the occasional CV & CX...& SQ 744F's. Atlas (I think) are the only US freighters we see in sunny MEL. I recall the Connie Kalitta's 742F's & Flying Tigers...oh, Emery used to bring in the DC-8F's...
Hmmm...time for another pill I think!
When you think about it, we don't get many of those big haulers down here...just the occasional CV & CX...& SQ 744F's. Atlas (I think) are the only US freighters we see in sunny MEL. I recall the Connie Kalitta's 742F's & Flying Tigers...oh, Emery used to bring in the DC-8F's...
Hmmm...time for another pill I think!
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hi buster..good to see you still look out for tails passing thru
the sale and lease back of cv a/c is well reported in the year 2006 figures,couple this with arrival of new equipment in 2009,it is fact that "leased" old units will leave as being being replaced by the new -8 but not necessarily on a one to one basis- the fleet will still be 16 strong and more come 2009
the buyers..well thats another story depending on which paper you read
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the sale and lease back of cv a/c is well reported in the year 2006 figures,couple this with arrival of new equipment in 2009,it is fact that "leased" old units will leave as being being replaced by the new -8 but not necessarily on a one to one basis- the fleet will still be 16 strong and more come 2009
the buyers..well thats another story depending on which paper you read
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like YSSY! 
Besides, REAL airports operate 24/7!
acmi...can't miss 'em from where I live. It'd be nice to see the 3 boxes once in a while, but I'd need to talk to scheduling about that! It's a pity to see the older 744's going...I had a cunning plan for them you see...Ratty will tell you about it!
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Resurrecting this old thread it is interesting to see what has happened in the past 2+ years with the air cargo industry in a tail spin.
It has been confirmed that the 2 Cargolux aircraft will leave the fleet for UPS in the next few weeks, however in the mean time the -8F programme has slipped a year or so. This means there will be only 14 CLX aircraft for the foreseeable future. 3 more retirements are slated for next year but will coincide with the delivery of the -8F. A 14 aircraft fleet is potentially seen until the end of 2011 as -8F deliveries will be delayed by arrangement with Boeing.
There is also a caveat that there might be a further reduction in hull numbers if the economic situation warrants it.
Lets hope that in a further 2 years there will be a reversal of fortune in general and the fleet will once again be expanding.
It has been confirmed that the 2 Cargolux aircraft will leave the fleet for UPS in the next few weeks, however in the mean time the -8F programme has slipped a year or so. This means there will be only 14 CLX aircraft for the foreseeable future. 3 more retirements are slated for next year but will coincide with the delivery of the -8F. A 14 aircraft fleet is potentially seen until the end of 2011 as -8F deliveries will be delayed by arrangement with Boeing.
There is also a caveat that there might be a further reduction in hull numbers if the economic situation warrants it.
Lets hope that in a further 2 years there will be a reversal of fortune in general and the fleet will once again be expanding.
