Something good about AAI
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Something good about AAI
Hello out there.
I just forwarded my application as F/O to AAI and. Can any one give me some positive feedback about that company. What does a typically working month look like?
Thanx
I just forwarded my application as F/O to AAI and. Can any one give me some positive feedback about that company. What does a typically working month look like?
Thanx
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But what about the flying itself? The colleagues? The 747. I allready know the money and the schedule is crap. There has to be someting good about them. I send in my CV and will hpoefully get en inteview in a sim ride this month.
Guys - cheer me up a bit. Is it difficult to fly.
Guys - cheer me up a bit. Is it difficult to fly.
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Tag,
If these posted sentiments are correct, then try this . . . . At about 7pm tonight, go place a chair in your clothes closet (preferably without the clothes) and sit there with the closet door closed for at least nine hours (this simulates night flying westbound, have a bright light ready if eastbound). Run a few vacuum cleaners outside of your closet to simulate engine noise. Try to stay awake - you may also read with a nightlight if you wish. After about nine hours or so, go stand by your bed and wait for about fifty minutes (this simulates waiting for your destination hotel room that is being readied for an early am check in). Take a long nap, then go to a coffee shop and eat. Walk around your street for an hour or so, and then do all of this again. Repeat this scenario several times within a week, and continue it for a month or two (and remember the small paycheck).
On the flip side, there should be some room for adventure (both adverse and fun), and what would be wrong with that?
If these posted sentiments are correct, then try this . . . . At about 7pm tonight, go place a chair in your clothes closet (preferably without the clothes) and sit there with the closet door closed for at least nine hours (this simulates night flying westbound, have a bright light ready if eastbound). Run a few vacuum cleaners outside of your closet to simulate engine noise. Try to stay awake - you may also read with a nightlight if you wish. After about nine hours or so, go stand by your bed and wait for about fifty minutes (this simulates waiting for your destination hotel room that is being readied for an early am check in). Take a long nap, then go to a coffee shop and eat. Walk around your street for an hour or so, and then do all of this again. Repeat this scenario several times within a week, and continue it for a month or two (and remember the small paycheck).
On the flip side, there should be some room for adventure (both adverse and fun), and what would be wrong with that?
Nope ...
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hi
Flying already ad hoc cargo ,getting paid like s....,i think i know the deal.
Somehow i still wanna go AAI so speaking for all guys which are invited ,can you give us some information about the recruitment Process.
Dont understand me wrong ,i dont want to support missbehaviour in a company towards the pilots ,but i guess for me as a single guy its a good chance to move towards the goal ...
So please let us know what we need to know ...
the rest we will experience soon i guess ...
Cheers
Somehow i still wanna go AAI so speaking for all guys which are invited ,can you give us some information about the recruitment Process.
Dont understand me wrong ,i dont want to support missbehaviour in a company towards the pilots ,but i guess for me as a single guy its a good chance to move towards the goal ...
So please let us know what we need to know ...
the rest we will experience soon i guess ...
Cheers
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The best defenition i ever heard!
Really,its down to the dot.
AAI's new FOM chapter 7,edition nov06.is just about to crack...if CAA look's in to the content about def.of tvl and duty time...and reporting time...
It's amazing how they could get this printed,and of course any newhires or some young "son" in ops will ofcourse send U tvl to AMS and then operate to K.L ref. to FOM chp7...
Its so stupid written thats its very easy missunderstod,maybe that was the point from the start.
Really,its down to the dot.
AAI's new FOM chapter 7,edition nov06.is just about to crack...if CAA look's in to the content about def.of tvl and duty time...and reporting time...
It's amazing how they could get this printed,and of course any newhires or some young "son" in ops will ofcourse send U tvl to AMS and then operate to K.L ref. to FOM chp7...
Its so stupid written thats its very easy missunderstod,maybe that was the point from the start.
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Thanx gyus
I was actually looking for threads that could cheer me up a bit. I have an interrview this week and my current employer gave me the green ligt to go for launch with this project. If onyone would take the time to - in a few lines - describe an average working week at AAI. What is the 747 like to fly?
I was actually looking for threads that could cheer me up a bit. I have an interrview this week and my current employer gave me the green ligt to go for launch with this project. If onyone would take the time to - in a few lines - describe an average working week at AAI. What is the 747 like to fly?
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"an average working week in AAI" ?
Day 1 (of the month)
breakfast at 9am, attended merely to hear the latest rumors, who has left, what contracts are about to end, which aircraft are AOG, ( again) which should be,
Go back to room, initiate daily charge 19 usd internet to check company email
receive a roster about 10AM, about 10: 45 receive the first amendment to this roster, completely changing it, and throughout the day receive amendments to the amended roster, each changing dramatically.
Note on 6th roster you have a 2200 hr pickup.
on what you thought was your day off.
( flight leaves at 0001) so this is OK apparently.
2200 show for pick up, find pick up delayed "until further notice"
wait in lobby as room no longer available
call "NCC" who have no clue who you are, or for that matter where.
3 hours later, room now found, news reaches you in the bar, where the balance of the on base crews can be found,
still discussing the latest rumors,
Day 2
Receive 8AM wake up call, (should have checked roster version 9 received at 0400)
wait in lobby for an additional 50 minutes, (no transport)
wait in bus at stand 45 minutes (no airplane)
wait in airplane 2 hrs (no flt plans)
wait in airplane another hour, (no freight)
wait off stand 1 hour, new slot
depart 1445, 4 hours delayed, on yet another Hong Kong - Tashkent - Luxembourg trip!
21 hours later, arrive Luxembourg.
no transport, which is not really critical as there probably will not be a hotel room anyway.
Arrive at hotel 2 hours later, to find that while there is indeed no room, you have a new roster.
and a flight early AM
back to Hong Kong,
via Kuwait
This can probably be considered day 3, hard to be specific now.
roster 17 shows a day off in HKG,
unfortunately roster 23 has you positioning on arrival to KL
and you do
arriving on what must be day 4? maybe 5 now, who can accurately say.
day 6, whoops roster 26 showed you operating HKG? so position back
and the time spent waiting in the lobby again for the non existent room, takes you into day 7,
2 rosters arrive while you wait.
but I have to say, I still enjoyed my time there overall, you will by and large fly with a great group of guys.
Day 1 (of the month)
breakfast at 9am, attended merely to hear the latest rumors, who has left, what contracts are about to end, which aircraft are AOG, ( again) which should be,
Go back to room, initiate daily charge 19 usd internet to check company email
receive a roster about 10AM, about 10: 45 receive the first amendment to this roster, completely changing it, and throughout the day receive amendments to the amended roster, each changing dramatically.
Note on 6th roster you have a 2200 hr pickup.
on what you thought was your day off.
( flight leaves at 0001) so this is OK apparently.
2200 show for pick up, find pick up delayed "until further notice"
wait in lobby as room no longer available
call "NCC" who have no clue who you are, or for that matter where.
3 hours later, room now found, news reaches you in the bar, where the balance of the on base crews can be found,
still discussing the latest rumors,
Day 2
Receive 8AM wake up call, (should have checked roster version 9 received at 0400)
wait in lobby for an additional 50 minutes, (no transport)
wait in bus at stand 45 minutes (no airplane)
wait in airplane 2 hrs (no flt plans)
wait in airplane another hour, (no freight)
wait off stand 1 hour, new slot
depart 1445, 4 hours delayed, on yet another Hong Kong - Tashkent - Luxembourg trip!
21 hours later, arrive Luxembourg.
no transport, which is not really critical as there probably will not be a hotel room anyway.
Arrive at hotel 2 hours later, to find that while there is indeed no room, you have a new roster.
and a flight early AM
back to Hong Kong,
via Kuwait
This can probably be considered day 3, hard to be specific now.
roster 17 shows a day off in HKG,
unfortunately roster 23 has you positioning on arrival to KL
and you do
arriving on what must be day 4? maybe 5 now, who can accurately say.
day 6, whoops roster 26 showed you operating HKG? so position back
and the time spent waiting in the lobby again for the non existent room, takes you into day 7,
2 rosters arrive while you wait.
but I have to say, I still enjoyed my time there overall, you will by and large fly with a great group of guys.
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Sounds fantastic. Can't wait to get started!
Anyway thank you very much for your reply canadair.
I really hope I live up to their expectations Friday. If I crak it and the sim assesment I'll say yes straight away.
If you have any advice I'll appreciate (can't spell that word and somebody stole my dictionary) it very much
Anyway thank you very much for your reply canadair.
I really hope I live up to their expectations Friday. If I crak it and the sim assesment I'll say yes straight away.
If you have any advice I'll appreciate (can't spell that word and somebody stole my dictionary) it very much
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Hi Canadair
Was I on your last HKG, KWI, LUX or was is KUL rotation??? Sounds like my normal day or days, hard to tell.
Some of it was fun. KUL for one Bangsar all night long. Some hard parties there last year when the Scandihooligands where around en masse, a pity I missed em. And HKG: Dusk2Dawn, Joe Bananas, Strawberrys, Ned Kellys last stance, TST, the "South African" Electronics shop. Oh and the Hajj from Jakarta. CJ's of Mulia, Bugils and all the company you could care for. Amsterdam, Leitseplein, Schnitzel in FRA. Cyclone , Irish pub, Rockbottoms and Sherlock Holmes in DXB. Mojitos in HAV. DRO holding his court in the little bar around Eurobuilding. I dont miss LGW Hilton nor the Lack of quality hotel there either, But in the Hilton if you made it down at the Jockey Bar for the happy hour at 6pm you had to be there on the hour as the snacks would be gone in 5 min. LUX: Cold, expensive and booooring. But give me PVG any time. What a place that is. Who bought golf clubs? I did! The Bund not too bad. Anyone ever got the Brazilian BBQ there? Take Nairobbery, Nah I rather take Johannesburg or EZE, what steaks, what wine and those Argentinian girls developing international relations. So nice that many of present and ex AAI have bough places there. BRU old town the Keller and the square or MST what a summer place.
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Some of it was fun. KUL for one Bangsar all night long. Some hard parties there last year when the Scandihooligands where around en masse, a pity I missed em. And HKG: Dusk2Dawn, Joe Bananas, Strawberrys, Ned Kellys last stance, TST, the "South African" Electronics shop. Oh and the Hajj from Jakarta. CJ's of Mulia, Bugils and all the company you could care for. Amsterdam, Leitseplein, Schnitzel in FRA. Cyclone , Irish pub, Rockbottoms and Sherlock Holmes in DXB. Mojitos in HAV. DRO holding his court in the little bar around Eurobuilding. I dont miss LGW Hilton nor the Lack of quality hotel there either, But in the Hilton if you made it down at the Jockey Bar for the happy hour at 6pm you had to be there on the hour as the snacks would be gone in 5 min. LUX: Cold, expensive and booooring. But give me PVG any time. What a place that is. Who bought golf clubs? I did! The Bund not too bad. Anyone ever got the Brazilian BBQ there? Take Nairobbery, Nah I rather take Johannesburg or EZE, what steaks, what wine and those Argentinian girls developing international relations. So nice that many of present and ex AAI have bough places there. BRU old town the Keller and the square or MST what a summer place.
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"Sounds fantastic. Can't wait to get started!
Anyway thank you very much for your reply canadair.
I really hope I live up to their expectations Friday. If I crak it and the sim assesment I'll say yes straight away.
If you have any advice I'll appreciate (can't spell that word and somebody stole my dictionary) it very much"
Gosh it cracks me up. That post was tongue in cheek but largely accurate. And you are still interested??? Once again, if you are single with no ties back home AND just as important don't mind getting screwed on a regular basis then go ahead and give AAI a try. This is why of course Air Atlanta continues in business without improving things excpet for a few select individuals. Some guys still think they want to give it a try and voila! Air Atlanta continues on. Life at AAI sucks bad for the rest of the pilots, and why the smart ones end up leaving. Things will never improve there unless you guys stop taking jobs with them.
The only good that came out of my time with AAI was flying experience in some of the real crapholes of the world, although is sure didn't seem fun in the least at the time. Experience that turned out to look good on a job application. If I could have looked in the crystle ball and seen myself where I'm at WITHOUT going to Air Atlanta I would have skipped the whole thing. Horrible horrible place to work.
Anyway thank you very much for your reply canadair.
I really hope I live up to their expectations Friday. If I crak it and the sim assesment I'll say yes straight away.
If you have any advice I'll appreciate (can't spell that word and somebody stole my dictionary) it very much"
Gosh it cracks me up. That post was tongue in cheek but largely accurate. And you are still interested???
Once again, if you are single with no ties back home AND just as important don't mind getting screwed on a regular basis then go ahead and give AAI a try. This is why of course Air Atlanta continues in business without improving things excpet for a few select individuals. Some guys still think they want to give it a try and voila! Air Atlanta continues on. Life at AAI sucks bad for the rest of the pilots, and why the smart ones end up leaving. Things will never improve there unless you guys stop taking jobs with them. The only good that came out of my time with AAI was flying experience in some of the real crapholes of the world, although is sure didn't seem fun in the least at the time. Experience that turned out to look good on a job application. If I could have looked in the crystle ball and seen myself where I'm at WITHOUT going to Air Atlanta I would have skipped the whole thing. Horrible horrible place to work.
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Now how about a bad day?
Air Atlanta is not everybody's cup of coffee but if you look at it as more an adventure than a career you'll love it!
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canadair,
Must say that sounds just like my old job, working as a consultant-engineer. Just without the flying.
I s'pose bad places can be found in all lines of business, wouldn't you say?!
Enjoyed reading your post though!
...and since I figure I need a little adventure, I decided to apply.
Have heard exactly squat since though. I guess they're just not that desperate, huh!?
Hawkeye red,
Don't know how your knowledge of Scandi-lingo is, but if you now what tagdenmedro's nick means, I think you should take heed to that advise.
Must say that sounds just like my old job, working as a consultant-engineer. Just without the flying.
I s'pose bad places can be found in all lines of business, wouldn't you say?!
Enjoyed reading your post though!
...and since I figure I need a little adventure, I decided to apply.
Have heard exactly squat since though. I guess they're just not that desperate, huh!?
Hawkeye red,
Don't know how your knowledge of Scandi-lingo is, but if you now what tagdenmedro's nick means, I think you should take heed to that advise.
Now that's funny Bill.
Air Atlanta is not everybody's cup of coffee but if you look at it as more an adventure than a career you'll love it!
Air Atlanta is not everybody's cup of coffee but if you look at it as more an adventure than a career you'll love it!
I find as time goes by I can only cope with being at work for a month or two at a time, then I need another month or two to recover.
I really feel for the poor fellows/fellowettes that have to work nearly full-time to pay the bills.
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I want to fly cargo
so I'm new to pprune and reading a lot of horror stuff about AAI, yet guys are applying...and another one says to see it as an adventure rather than a career...I can dig that...I'm adventurous with multiple multi hours but no Jet-A time...sent my resume off to one of the email addresses I found here but haven't heard anything back yet...it sounds like people are leaving like trees over there...do they not have a shortage then or did I have the wrong email address after all...someone help me please, I don't know what I'm doing (applying for this company)...
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