rigid cargo
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rigid cargo
hi there fellow loadmasters
according to boeing manual an single piece higher then 240cm and an certain weight is rigid,then a total of seven frangible plts should be placed right in front of it if on right side pos a/b (1/2) can be counted if on left side b(2) can not be used .so first rigid pallet can be put on pos jr. this rule is there to protect the upperdeck(flightdeck ) in case of 9g force. how come certain airlines do not have this in there loadcontrol manual? Talked to an certain chiefloadmaster dan he said" if 9g occur the plane is gone anyway" this rule is sometimes an pain in the butt as most of the time these are heavy pieces
5000-7500kg and would be nice to put this on top of the wing section thus not limiting the op. side. Does the company you handle/work for have this rule ? and how is this solved if you for example have to ferry 1 engine q7
then it says to strap for 9g ! don't even have that many points
regards frank
according to boeing manual an single piece higher then 240cm and an certain weight is rigid,then a total of seven frangible plts should be placed right in front of it if on right side pos a/b (1/2) can be counted if on left side b(2) can not be used .so first rigid pallet can be put on pos jr. this rule is there to protect the upperdeck(flightdeck ) in case of 9g force. how come certain airlines do not have this in there loadcontrol manual? Talked to an certain chiefloadmaster dan he said" if 9g occur the plane is gone anyway" this rule is sometimes an pain in the butt as most of the time these are heavy pieces
5000-7500kg and would be nice to put this on top of the wing section thus not limiting the op. side. Does the company you handle/work for have this rule ? and how is this solved if you for example have to ferry 1 engine q7
then it says to strap for 9g ! don't even have that many points
regards frank
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From: #3117# Ppruner of the Year Nominee 2005
Ratty & I have had numerous discussions on this very subject. (I let him think he's right due to his blood pressure)
Indeed CX stick hard & fast to this rule and, if memory serves, SQ do as well. A certain Euro box hauler that I spent time with, did not have this rule, however, I never loaded non-frangible without something to cushion it...(Don't tell Ratty!)
Indeed CX stick hard & fast to this rule and, if memory serves, SQ do as well. A certain Euro box hauler that I spent time with, did not have this rule, however, I never loaded non-frangible without something to cushion it...(Don't tell Ratty!)
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If you tie it down properly, nothing is going to happen.
So, how do you load an aircraft engine when there is no other cargo on board? (as previously mentioned in the original post).
Never forget: Half of what Boeing write in their manuals comes from their legal dept - ass covering exercise.
So, how do you load an aircraft engine when there is no other cargo on board? (as previously mentioned in the original post).
Never forget: Half of what Boeing write in their manuals comes from their legal dept - ass covering exercise.
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So, how do you load an aircraft engine when there is no other cargo on board?
So, if you always drive safely, there's no need for a seat belt?
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Between positions D and E. Can't be bothered to dig the manual out of the depths of the car, but must be roughly sta700ish. The big bloody net behind the upper deck with hooks on the bottom... divides the 96'/118' area.
Anything higher than 96' will get caught in the net... including normal high pallets which dumbass blind people try to drive out of the nose... And then complain that the pdu's don't work
Anything higher than 96' will get caught in the net... including normal high pallets which dumbass blind people try to drive out of the nose... And then complain that the pdu's don't work
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Oh that one, I thought it was a left over Christmas decoration!
It's not really going to stop a donk loaded in C then is it? You basically want to stop anything coming out of the nose under extreme breaking, or causing airframe damage if it shifts. The restraints, I agree, are normally sufficient, but if a "person" doing the tie downs is slack, or the LoCo Bloko couldn't be stuffed calculating the restraint properly....
It's not really going to stop a donk loaded in C then is it?
You basically want to stop anything coming out of the nose under extreme breaking, or causing airframe damage if it shifts. The restraints, I agree, are normally sufficient, but if a "person" doing the tie downs is slack, or the LoCo Bloko couldn't be stuffed calculating the restraint properly....
