Except second officer (or freighter FO) it would seem...

That would have to be the most incredible piece of rationalisation I have ever heard!!!

To be quite frank BusyB I fail to see how the AOA can get much worse off (as an industrial force) than they are right at this moment. They are in honesty a Club for longer term serving CX pilots with little or no relevance as to their true function. Yes they organise a good insurance (ha ha), or maybe not. They have got an excellent technical representation and attend all sorts of technical forums with good result. They have got some very bright young pilots in their group who are slowly but surely becoming sidelined from affairs at CX. Pity that. The decisions the AOA has made over a long period of time has significantly affected the situation of us all at CX in a very adverse fashion. There is no doubt that most of these decisions were made for the wrong reasons, a lot of emotion and little substance. There are hidden agendas on both sides of the fence and the 49ers are the result. I do feel for the 49ers but am more glad it was not 149ers. Come and get me pit bulls.

a CX name from long ago...
 

Noticed the 'laury' and couldn't help remembering...


Laury K.....now there was a piece of work.
When he retired from CX long ago, he went to SQ for a two year contract.
A few of the younger SQ First Officers mentioned that it was not nice flying with him...never mentioned why.

A deserved reputation perhaps?

Ah yes, Laurie K Chief Pilot was a very hard task master,to say the least.

Eer Lad,

At least in SQ he didn't have the time, nor was he given a whistle, and a pocket full of yellow and red cards with which to impose his will and destroy perfectly competent peoples' lives.

As the old adage goes ....every inch a king and every foot a ruler.

Eer lad, you make your turn over the Kowloon Magistracy, you understand?

For Haneda RW16, eyeball the "chimenies" and you'll see the "runaway".

Hmmm, another one at SQ, Sam D...(rhymes with God) never let the young F/O's use sunglasses.
Landing on Rny 07 in SYD in the early morning ain't pleasent without 'em. Made no difference to this guy however.

Where do some get these strange ideas, I wonder?

Personally just let the young guys do the job, without a big hassle all the time.

411A

I think you mean Ken D....and there was an S on the end.

Traffic,

Yes, that name rings a bell as well.

Sam was a different kettle of fish altogether, ex-BA I think. Stayed about 5 years as I recall.

On the flip side, there were a few (many) ex-BA guys that were very well liked by all.

Shortly, You still haven't got the point. How can the 49'ers be worse off by taking legal action??

411A,

You have the wrong person. But talking about undesirable characters, I have heard you are not much chop on the flight deck.
Retraining recently sound familliar?

OK Ladies and Gents, an interesting thread so let's keep it going but without getting into the personal stuff please!

The Post, not the Poster:ok:

Thanks,

BlueEagle - Moderator.

laury,

Don't be silly. All folks mentioned are long before your time...circa 1970's...:ooh:

Looking at the present situation at CX, really do think it's time the CX management made a better faith effort at resolving differences with the AOA.

And vice versa.

Will it happen I wonder?

Stick together boys and girls. (Nothwithstanding the header).
All you out of the AOA - get back in.
Show 'em you've got The Right Stuff!
DD

It is very interestink zat Trüßeeker International vill break za union ban und zen vant to join it.

You must be one very confused young mann TSI.
Und you need to look at yourselve in ze mirror and see ze reflection of a scap, bekaus if you had vaited für only a little langer you could haf join-ed CX as a non-scap.

As zer are only relatifly few of you TSI, you vill forever schtick out like a pea on a pümpkin.
Ze managers haf made you look stüpid - ein Pimmelkopf - Trüßeeker International, ünd you mein freund are ze vone zat müßt live vis zat for alle of ze rest of your life vis CX!

Hmmm!...correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Horse is trying to tell us he doesn't like scabs!

Horse shi!@#

Can you please explain in clear terms how we were meant to delay our entrance into CX when the recruitment personel says this is your start date start then or never.... that is the phone call i had .. i tried to delay but in the end it cam down to either joining then or give up my career.

as for AOA members .......not even turning down upgrades when it says quite clearly in the COS that you can do so with no reprocusions to your career.. tell me why that isnt hypocritical.

Also what is the AOA doing for those that turned down the jobs. Are you offering to pay there saleries from you pocket because i doubt they will ever get one from CX.

As for living with it, i personally am enjoying my time and the crews i fly with, I have not had any harasment at all and am enjoy many beers with the crews on the lay overs.

don't worry about what old Fritz has to say Kiwi, you and I know we made the right decision and we have a good job, good pay and an excellent career path. most of the AOA guys I have become aquainted with in the past 18 months agree the ban was futile and the AOA has lost a lot of support over it from the members.:ok:

Flying Kiwi, I've got you down for a gift of an English dictionary for Christmas.:)

Cheers.

Put the Fritz down for a german one too.:D

edited for spelling, the dictionary has arrived already