Cathay pilots have got no balls!
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Cathay pilots have got no balls!
When are you lot going to do something about the poor sods who lost their jobs a while back! What is it?...2,3 years ago?
Lots of rhetoric and no action whatsoever!
You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves!
What a bunch of gutless wonders!!!!
Lots of rhetoric and no action whatsoever!
You should all be thoroughly ashamed of yourselves!
What a bunch of gutless wonders!!!!
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Take a deep breath, take another swig of your XXXX and read your PM's. Fishing takes patience and a cleverly disguised piece of bait. Your message has neither.
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amos got done over in the '89 pilots stoush. take no notice of the bitter little man. hey aimee - i got balls, I came up here 18 months ago in the middle of a so called "recruitment ban" which has since been dropped. i took the midnight phone calls, abusive letters in the mail etc,. but WHO CARES. i got a good job, good money and a lifetime career. and you know the best thing - i don't have have to join that ****** out union any more 'cause they don't like we replacement drivers. Sh!t - i'm crying all the way to the BANK !!!! tell me now who has the BALLs !!
PS = you'll get over '89 one of these days pal. like the AOA up here - it's ONLY A MATTER OF TIME !!!
PS = you'll get over '89 one of these days pal. like the AOA up here - it's ONLY A MATTER OF TIME !!!
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AMOS2 - Just wondering what would you recommend the AOA do or should have done wrt "the poor sods who lost their jobs."? With your experience in Industrial Relations surely you must have some sound advice for them. Hope it doesn't involve them all resigning!
However, I do agree the effect of "the ban" was No Action and No result.
However, I do agree the effect of "the ban" was No Action and No result.
Actually Amos, I think the AOA took a leaf out of your lots book. They managed to turn a lot of people into scape goats for their own **** *ps, thus deflecting any blame from themselves.
Should sound familiar to you...
Should sound familiar to you...
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Even I am offended by Sub-Sonic Missing Brain's post. (That's a first)
Can it be that he did not even have the ability to take any sort of promotion so he could not snatch the pay of a 49er.
He must be one of the few.
Incidently, since you had not noticed, Severe Acute Respitory Synrome has almost disappeared in Hong Kong.
Stupid And Repulsive Statements (sorry best I could manage at this time of night), however, seem to be live and well.
Compsing this has made me increasingly angry,. I am not much given to emotional reaction but this post makes light of an illness that severely affected our community so I am just about to hit the button the says report this post to a moderator.
Can it be that he did not even have the ability to take any sort of promotion so he could not snatch the pay of a 49er.
He must be one of the few.
Incidently, since you had not noticed, Severe Acute Respitory Synrome has almost disappeared in Hong Kong.
Stupid And Repulsive Statements (sorry best I could manage at this time of night), however, seem to be live and well.
Compsing this has made me increasingly angry,. I am not much given to emotional reaction but this post makes light of an illness that severely affected our community so I am just about to hit the button the says report this post to a moderator.
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Theres always one that is going to overstep the mark when these threads start to outdo the previous post in hostility. I have applied the necessary edits to achieve what I hope will trip this thread back on track. If it doesn't work I will lock it !
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It seems the "sensitivity" of PP's missing intellect is fragile indeed.
Grow up son.
One can only wonder at the intellect of a "moderator", who would pull a post which, looked at in comparison, could be no more offensive than the one TSI placed gloating about the job he was happy to steal from a 49er.
So perhaps the moderator is one of the 400 who could not care less about colleagues with whom they share a cockpit.
If so, he/she should be more than thoroughly ashamed of his/herself.
The CX pilots ought to learn from history and that means '89, and stick together, or you will be inundated by the likes of TSI, whose enormous brain will always remain at its pinhead size.
Grow up son.
One can only wonder at the intellect of a "moderator", who would pull a post which, looked at in comparison, could be no more offensive than the one TSI placed gloating about the job he was happy to steal from a 49er.
So perhaps the moderator is one of the 400 who could not care less about colleagues with whom they share a cockpit.
If so, he/she should be more than thoroughly ashamed of his/herself.
The CX pilots ought to learn from history and that means '89, and stick together, or you will be inundated by the likes of TSI, whose enormous brain will always remain at its pinhead size.
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It just so happens that I saw Sub Sonics post before PP became so overcome with emotion that he had to hit the foul button.
Actually it seems PP was so distraught that he even had problems remembering how to spell!
Sub Sonics post was hard hitting and well written I thought, with a lashing of irony, but I guess that depends on which direction one is coming from. It certainly did not warrant censoring!
Anyway, I thought Pruners could cut the mustard and handle the heat, but not all of us apparently. Perhaps PP is boxing out of his division here!
Actually it seems PP was so distraught that he even had problems remembering how to spell!
Sub Sonics post was hard hitting and well written I thought, with a lashing of irony, but I guess that depends on which direction one is coming from. It certainly did not warrant censoring!
Anyway, I thought Pruners could cut the mustard and handle the heat, but not all of us apparently. Perhaps PP is boxing out of his division here!
Sub Sonic,
I would have thought that if there was a lesson from '89 it was that strategies which involve others taking the fall for you don't work.
Exactly how successful was the ban in putting pressure on the company?
Is the AOA better or worse off now there are several hundred Cathay pilots ineligible for membership?
It's all very well saying it would have worked "IF". If my uncle had T**** he'd be my Aunty. You didn't want to risk your own positions (or, God forbid! Turn down a promotion opportunity in this company you despise so much!) So you put the onus on outsiders, and now are all amazed and hurt that an awful lot of people didn't buy it.
Another thread suggests the court cases are starting to come in favour of the 49ers. Let's hope so. This seems to be the only potentially fruitful line the AOA is prepared to follow, as any other might actually involve putting THEMSELVES on the line in support of their fellows.
I would have thought that if there was a lesson from '89 it was that strategies which involve others taking the fall for you don't work.
Exactly how successful was the ban in putting pressure on the company?
Is the AOA better or worse off now there are several hundred Cathay pilots ineligible for membership?
It's all very well saying it would have worked "IF". If my uncle had T**** he'd be my Aunty. You didn't want to risk your own positions (or, God forbid! Turn down a promotion opportunity in this company you despise so much!) So you put the onus on outsiders, and now are all amazed and hurt that an awful lot of people didn't buy it.
Another thread suggests the court cases are starting to come in favour of the 49ers. Let's hope so. This seems to be the only potentially fruitful line the AOA is prepared to follow, as any other might actually involve putting THEMSELVES on the line in support of their fellows.
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Subsonic MB,
When a post is reported to a moderator it is usually looked at to see if the complaint is valid ! This is part of the process of scrolling through perhaps 200 posts a day. Some forums are given a wider degree of latitude particularly the regional ones which tend to be populated by smaller groups of "professionals".
If a complaint arises from whatever source and is upheld either on what has been posted or the trend of the thread then it can be closed, transferred to the admin forum or in this case left to run. Sometimes a subject will naturally be emotive rather than willfully offensive and it was to this conclusion that the post was removed and the thread continued.
"one can wonder at the intellect of a moderator" if one wishes to. The moderator is not making any comparisons of offensiveness but has decided your post oversteps the mark. The moderator is not "one of the 400 who could not care less about colleagues with whom (they) share a cockpit", as such the moderator is not "thoroughly ashamed of his/herself" In fact the moderator doesn't really understand what you are insinuating and therefore choses to ignore it.
In summary this thread is clearly of interest to many. Please argue your point as you see fit but do not resort to what may be perceived as offensive remarks I am sure your own wit can be applied to that requirement.
When a post is reported to a moderator it is usually looked at to see if the complaint is valid ! This is part of the process of scrolling through perhaps 200 posts a day. Some forums are given a wider degree of latitude particularly the regional ones which tend to be populated by smaller groups of "professionals".
If a complaint arises from whatever source and is upheld either on what has been posted or the trend of the thread then it can be closed, transferred to the admin forum or in this case left to run. Sometimes a subject will naturally be emotive rather than willfully offensive and it was to this conclusion that the post was removed and the thread continued.
"one can wonder at the intellect of a moderator" if one wishes to. The moderator is not making any comparisons of offensiveness but has decided your post oversteps the mark. The moderator is not "one of the 400 who could not care less about colleagues with whom (they) share a cockpit", as such the moderator is not "thoroughly ashamed of his/herself" In fact the moderator doesn't really understand what you are insinuating and therefore choses to ignore it.
In summary this thread is clearly of interest to many. Please argue your point as you see fit but do not resort to what may be perceived as offensive remarks I am sure your own wit can be applied to that requirement.
"bunch of gutless wonders"?
As it turns out...yesterday marked the second anniversary of the sacking of the Cathay Pacific 49ers by management for "for no particular reason". The members of the Hong Kong Aircrew Officers' Association voted again yesterday to continue the financial support for the 49ers and their families.
Not such a bad level of integrity, commitment, loyalty and resilience for a so-called "bunch of gutless wonders"?
Not such a bad level of integrity, commitment, loyalty and resilience for a so-called "bunch of gutless wonders"?
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I guess it makes some point that the members of the AOA are still supporting those 49ers remaining at need. I am not sure what that point is, and I am certain that it is not really helping those 49ers get on with their lives. Whatever the outcomes of the cases OS it is extremely unlikely that there will be any re-instatement. We don't want to get back into the mire of why and where, you would still have us believe that the AOA were lily white and the Company acted without provocation and for no reason arbirarily sacked 50 odd personnel that it (the company) had paid a fortune to train. Keep repeating the same lies and they become truth.
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Shorts, I agree with most of what you say, especially
Goes both ways, I guess. The law will decide who was wrong and who was right, who is lying and whose halo is not "Made In China".
My money is on the AOA.
Keep repeating the same lies and they become truth
My money is on the AOA.