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4PW's 27th September 2006 10:36

DEC's for CX Cargo?
 
Dudes.

Is the suggestion on a Middle East thread about CX Cargo hiring DE Captains on the freighter true?

Checked the company website's Careers link, but nothing showing.

I guess that says it all really; no.

Nonetheless, I thought I'd ring the bell here, see if anyone answers.

Not trying to wind you good people up, so if you have been, please just ignore my well intentioned post and get on with enjoying your life.

Night Watch 27th September 2006 12:00

4PW's

The CoS that all CX pilots currently operate under forbids the recruitment of DE Capt's. The company would not do it, as it would be a clear breach of contract.

Nuff said :ok:

Loopdeloop 27th September 2006 12:44

Not quite "Nuff said"
They've advertised recently for F/O slots on the freighter with "rapid command". If you joined the company today with a shed load of experience on the Classic and took a couple of brave pills you could probably start an F/O course and switch it to a command course if everything was going OK. The seniority for command on the Classic is zero so as soon as they're willing to give you a go you could find yourself doing a course.
There are many reasons why I wouldn't recommend this course of action, do a search on this forum under classic or freighter and I'm sure you'll find them!
Good luck

4PW's 27th September 2006 13:48

Hmph. Thought so. The ME thread's assertions are a crock. Like NW states, nuff said. Thanks for the replies.

19weeler 28th September 2006 06:56

Since when has cx cared about "breach of contract"?

jtr 28th September 2006 12:41

So there is no truth to the rumour that there are guys getting hired on the freighter as F/O and training from the LHS?

Not on the freighter so I wouldn't know, but that is how the "story" goes

Loopdeloop 28th September 2006 13:35

One of the returning 49ers did but I don't think anyone new to CX has done so yet.

Re-entry 30th September 2006 10:50

actually 2 49'ers. F/O in the morning, command course by the afternoon. Both aced it.

cpdude 30th September 2006 15:05


Originally Posted by Re-entry (Post 2880859)
actually 2 49'ers. F/O in the morning, command course by the afternoon. Both aced it.

Both were ex-Captains at CX and 49'ers. IE. Special case!

4PW's 1st October 2006 22:28

Good on 'em.

They earned the position.

CX don't have a DEC program per se, which is probably a good thing.

dragon501 3rd October 2006 09:43

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA and not even April's fools day yet...

Chacka 3rd October 2006 20:20


Originally Posted by dabrat (Post 2885808)
Sorry guys but a mate of mine just got the call for an interview for Direct Entry Captain..Freighter.....sounds like trouble brewing in Paradise!!:hmm:

For what base? North America, Europe.....?

cpdude 3rd October 2006 23:22


Originally Posted by Chacka (Post 2887076)
For what base? North America, Europe.....?

Don't believe that CX is hiring DEC for CX brand flying. Air Hong Kong...yes, Dragon Air (Freighter)...probably, CX...no!

Five Green 4th October 2006 10:35

Check again
 
Dabrat:

Tell your buddy to double check that because things are not what they seem. If in fact he is comong to CX and not Air hong Kong or Dragon, then he should know the risk of not making it through is while not extreme something to consider.

Cheers

404 Titan 4th October 2006 11:50

I can confirm there has been “NO”, repeat “NO” interviews for direct entry captains for CX or CX Freight and I know first hand. There have been interviews for DEFO’s with the possibility of a quicker than normal commands but only after all those ahead in seniority list have been given a look in and/or a go first. Any person making such a claim as having attended an interview for DECapt’s CX or CX Freight is fishing and trying to create a wind up. My advice is to ignore them.

SMOC 5th October 2006 11:17


Originally Posted by 404 Titan (Post 2888231)
I can confirm there has been “NO”, repeat “NO” interviews for direct entry captains for CX or CX Freight and I know first hand. There have been interviews for DEFO’s with the possibility of a quicker than normal commands but only after all those ahead in seniority list have been given a look in and/or a go first. Any person making such a claim as having attended an interview for DECapt’s CX or CX Freight is fishing and trying to create a wind up. My advice is to ignore them.

Well you better look into it, seeing the CP told me at a fleet forum he had just interviewed a bunch months ago, with only a few suitable candidates. They were given the nod but that was the last I heard. They would go straight into the left seat for line trainning and if they don't pass will be offered the right seat.

Also I've met a guy at a flying club in the UK who was going for the position, and I believe he was one who got the OK.

This is the Classic Freighter I'm talking about.

404 Titan 5th October 2006 16:24

SMOC

I have. There have been a number of individuals interviewed for the expressed intent of “Rapid Command”. These individuals if selected will be employed as DEFO’s on the freighters and once all suitable F/O’s on the companies seniority list have been given a go and/or a look in and any other suitable F/O given a chance to bid, then and only then will these new F/O’s be given a shot at command. It may just be that there are no suitable F/O’s on the companies seniority list and no other F/O’s are prepared to go to the freighter. If this is the case then these individuals will probably jump straight into the left seat. I would suggest these individuals were interviewed because of this very reason and not to jump the seniority list as was infered by the original poster in this thread. Oh and did I mention the failure rate on the Classic command course?:oh:

jtr 6th October 2006 00:28

LHS?
 
TITAN since you have your finger somewhere near the pulse, do you know which seat these "F/O's" will be doing their initial training in?

404 Titan 6th October 2006 02:06

jtr
Personally I don’t but I suspect some will do their initial training in the left seat for the reason I stated above.

jtr 6th October 2006 02:16

I had also "heard" they would do it in the LHS.

So they join as an F/O, they train in the LHS, thus can only fly on the line with C+T, so that will not go on any longer than it needs (if that long at all), then they get signed off to fly with F/O's when they are still sitting in the LHS (sounds oddly similar to a 3 bar check)...

hmmmm.....

Let me think about it, they never fly in the RHS, the first time they fly on the line once out of the training system is as a Captain, but they are not DEC's?

If it walks like a duck...


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