Gentlemen:

You are getting hooked! The website will be up soon. Be patient.

There is a wedge being put between the Local and Expat Pilots. Don't let it happen.

The Company and Press will try to use this angle against us.

Let's play it smart. I know we are smarter than this.

Regards
Bengi 25

Thrust---
You are certainly correct about one thing, CX is answerable to its shareholders. I guess all will find out soon enough which party will prevail. Should be interesting reading.

It has been AOA policy to remove the current discriminatory practices for several years - at least since 1993. The AOA is fully supported by the locally employed pilots, as evidenced by the overwhelming number that are current members.

I suppose we should be thankful that 22 years ago 411A didn't meant a screaming limp-wristed gay stereotype from CX. Otherwise we would now be hearing from him that all of us at CX must be the same. Do you really care? Ignore the SOG.

SPI: your first para is absolutely correct, based on my experience of being a (former) AOA member (now fly elsewhere).

411A$$hole: you do no credit whatsoever to pilots/management at CX, and insult both sides. Neither would agree with you. 20 years ago has completely changed over the last 10 years.

Sorry, chaps, no longer biting. I'm just as fed up with his stray rounds aimed at my airline ( whom he also hasn't flown for = clueless ).

Best of luck, Nige.....

411A, you have point. I don't know how many Asian pilots in AOA but they are probably the silent minority. If they are allow to choose what action, they will most likely choose no action. Please show the voting figure if anyone disagree, how much vote from Asian pilots and what do they vote for. It won't be available of course.

How long it take to make captain in BA, QF, SIA for non ex-military company sponsored cadet? 8-9 years is the average. How many Asian pilot in CX has made captain? - none! You don't have to look far, look at the other HK airline. They have far shorter history but they have already make a few Asian pilot-captain. Unless the reason is because all the bright guy join the better company. Or CX only take those below standard. hee hee.

Sorry bengi25, Im NOT a CX driver so I would like to make an observation on sitowa2001's obvious (poor) attempt to make his posting appear to be one from one of your national pilots. His spelling and grammar are incredibly precise, which, along with a couple of non-Asian turns of phrases gives every indication that he is a stooge, trying to do exactly what you indicated.

...and to 411A - the impression that YOU have given of yourself doesn't leave any room to hold former CX pilots up for denigration. Remember, your "Glory Years" of Cathay were at the time when the Company worked WITH the pilots' association for everyone's mutual benefit, which is ALL that the guys today are trying to achieve!!

Kaptin M

I am sorry that your observation is - WRONG. That proves the point that we are not idiot and we can achieve what the non-Asian can. hee hee

Kaptin M---
And, wrong again. I have never worked for CX.
But, have known a lot who have, and their attitudes towards the locals are, almost without exception, negative.
I did work for SQ, and their operations were completely different.
The guys at Cathay have a lot to learn.

RTFQ 411A - I was quoting YOUR well-worn "Glory Days" phrase, although I must admit that your vitriolic postings AGAINST the CX pilots indicate a deeply entrenched envy of what you probably tried to achieve, but was unable to (ie. join CX). I too, am ex-SQ, and like you had our CA's NEGOTIATED between ALPA-S and SQ - not rammed down our throats like this current CX management (and their "consultants") are attempting to do AGAIN.

Until a few years ago, the Cathay pilots I knew were PROUD to be what was undisputedly Asia's Premium Airline carrier - it was head and shoulders above the nearest rival. Today, because of management stupidity and aggression towards their staff, Cathay's image has been marred - not YET irreparably, I don't think - however, no end of money spent on television and magazine advertising by CX, and hundreds of millions on the new Hong Kong airport, can keep up with - let alone outdo - the adverse publicity portrayed by their highest qualified, frontline staff - Catahy Pacific's Flight crews.

There are much more worthwhile conversations happening on the new AOA forum. It's anonymous don't worry!!

We'll soon figure out who's really a cx pilot or just here trying to stir the pot!!

Gus,

am applied for Cx,and I come from one
of the ASEAN countries,I did my final
even I did NOT make it,but I still put
my respect to the Company,cause they
have their own policy that I couldn't
change it.I can't related to the color
of mine or what ever you wanna say,but Professionally I've to accepted..like
it or not...that's the game.
Every one has their rights to say...

on the glide,

I'm sorry that your application with CX didn't work out. But perhaps you could acknowledge that maybe, there were other reasons besides race that contributed to your not being hired?

I've heard that sometimes they even look at things like experience, past work history, technical knowledge, you know, silly little things like that. Your interview perfomance also has a large bearing on the outcome, maybe you said something that offended them?

Casually dismissing your failure as a result of institutionalized bigotry is only lowering yourself to the level you are attempting to blame.

Only my opinion of course. But I'm getting tired of hearing comments that de-value the many excellent local pilots who have been hired on the merits of their professional ability.

Cheers.