And the Tin Ear of the week award goes tooooooo....
Junius Ho, pro Beijing politician in Hong Kong. From NYT. "One partygoer who did not apologize was Junius Ho, a firebrand pro-Beijing lawmaker who denounced the government’s handling of his brief quarantine. In a live video stream, he criticized Mrs. Lam and others, pounding his fist on a table until his phone went flying. “The government is completely out of order, completely dysfunctional,” he wrote on Facebook. He said if he’d known that health workers were merely going to drop him off at a subway station after his release, not take him home, he would have called his own driver." I wonder when he last had a good session of self criticism? |
|
|
|
Time for a reshuffle
Now with the potential of legal action against CX, Hughes and Kempis should resign, make it clear as managers they take responsibility for their employees. This would really highlight the hypocrisy of the HKG Government.
Swire would look after their own and is probably time for a reshuffle anyway. |
Originally Posted by controlledrest
(Post 11168360)
Now with the potential of legal action against CX, Hughes and Kempis should resign, make it clear as managers they take responsibility for their employees. This would really highlight the hypocrisy of the HKG Government.
Swire would look after their own and is probably time for a reshuffle anyway. I would worry more about the masses, wondering around the decks without a life jacket telling themselves “she’s unsinkable, we’ll be fine”. |
The smart ones never boarded;
the rats all jumped overboard last year; the quick thinkers are in the life boats; the naive ones are hoping for a miracle…. https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus...s-locals-leave |
Originally Posted by kenfoggo
(Post 11168347)
Naïve if you think that this is anything other than a politically motivated campaign to get rid of colonial era airline from a Chinese city. Perhaps if they try hard they can get Cathay to be responsible for the Kennedy assassination.
The Colonials, like the Mainland tycoons have felt the wrath. HK law protects the Swire’s, but the CHP mandate and strict border closure works around that. This is no different to when Hogg and Slosar fell on their swords, the airline back then was crippled with airspace restrictions. The CCP is protecting their citizens and the reality is that Includes HK |
Today 8 import-related cases, the highest number yet.
So far, they are losing the battle of whack-a-mole with omicron. The numbers by date in January are: Jan/cases; 2/1 3/1 4/3 5/3 6/4 7/7 8/6 9/6 10/5 11/8 Cases should double in 1.5 to 3 days, according to previous experiences in other countries. |
She’s out there, with a six shooter in each hand :eek:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c12f82a86.jpeg “A veteran pro-establishment politician, who declined to be named, said Cathay, whose majority shareholder is London-based conglomerate John Swire & Sons, was an easy scapegoat for pro-establishment politicians and pro-Beijing media to deflect blame arising from the birthday party scandal. “For the pro-establishment camp, Cathay Pacific is not ‘their own people’. Pointing the finger at the carrier can ease the political pressure facing them,” the politician said.” And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I’m very worried that CXi may not be around for much longer. They look after their own, and that’s where Greater Bay Airlines comes into the grand scheme of things. Well connected to the CCP, and ready to fill the gap left by CXi after the last flight has gone. |
|
It's going to be weird not seeing Danny on a CX bashing piece. Always remember that you can email him your tips [email protected]
So far it's just words with no real action. Who is left to resign anyway? The big ones took a fall after 2019's debacle. Cannot really see Tang and Lam leaving. They will always require the face of the company to be ethnically Chinese especially now it's backed by the North much more than it was. Edit: I got called Danny once or twice. Clearly I am not. To be fair his twitter and the twitter of tripperhead have somewhat decent info on the happenings of HK without the BS of WhatsApp groups. |
I spent most of the 2000's going after Nick Rhodes and the assorted cabal of misguided individuals we were then being attacked by (you may remember Trafalgar and Old China Driver :-) Compared to the situation now, they were choir boys. It was bad enough the pilots being attacked by management. Now, it seems the entire Govt is turning not only against the airline, but specifically against the pilots themselves. That will lead to a dangerous situation, where public anger will be manifesting itself directly against aircrew. It may be prudent to not travel in uniform anymore as someone may be so enraged to physically take action. I do feel that something terminal has taken place regarding the long term viability of CX, and now believe it may not survive in its present form. A very sad end to what was once the worlds greatest airline. Going back to Nick Rhodes (Ken Barley, Eddington etc...), they and their policies began the rot. We are now in the end game. Nick, you've got your wish. I did enjoy our jousting though. It was amusing knowing the groups you put together to figure out who OCD and Trafalgar were.
|
“There’s no money in freight” :rolleyes:
Turns out old Nick wasn’t too far off the mark, now that most of the freighters are grounded. Well, for CXi anyway. |
I think Swire closed the wrong airline down.....
https://onemileatatime.com/news/hong...it-passengers/ |
How much worse can it possibly get?
|
Originally Posted by SOPS
(Post 11168863)
How much worse can it possibly get?
|
|
Healy has restored some of my faith in the cx management. However, I feel, like past senior management his time is now numbered for standing up for his people. It won’t be long before the gov will ask for his resignation and put in place someone more willing to tow the line.
|
Are you fing kidding. That was nothing more than pandering to the government. Yeah he is really proud of everyone, the sacrifice that crew are making. He slashed contracts, that is how much he appreciates the sacrifice. Hong Kong and CX have totally lost the plot. Rather than sending a huge number onto bases so that everything possible could be crewed with minimal time in HKG, they decide to use the situation for control, getting everyone onto the new contract. Well done, you have taken Cathay to it's grave. Astounding mismanagement.
|
Yep, agreed. They’re so “grateful” they slashed our contracts in HK permanently. They also closed most bases, causing scores of our most experienced crew to lose their jobs.
|
A few to the top managers need to take one for the team and resign now! Making a CYA video wont help on the PR front. I can see CL coming out with a recommendation to suspend CX's AOC for a few months as punishment.
|
QNH! Boy, do you need to have another look at things. He’s not on our side! I couldn’t even understand why he put the video out. The only thing that makes sense is he was speaking to the government. While you’re reorienting your point of view, maybe check your idioms, it’s toe the line.
|
FFS that just says it all. Please don’t anyone else resign, we salute you. Bit of a different line to “Sign or be fired”. Enjoy your throne on an ever growing empire of self made dirt. Maybe they can get McKinsey ‘s to give them some sound advice how to get out of this bind.
Will you be saluting your crew this Oct as they move their families into shoe boxes and local schools. What’s with a salute anyway? Cathay pilots are not gladiators!!!!. They were paid professional s, well paid, to avoid unnecessary risk, which I suspect your corporate safety department s about to become very well versed. Good luck with the resignation rate and your world class CF. |
Originally Posted by Ecam321
(Post 11168968)
|
Better than being "terminated by email" permanently.
|
So when Mr Healy said a small number of “crew” had broken the quarantine requirements, were these crew, the Flight Attendents or Pilots?
Were they local or expats? Having left CX quite some time ago when the writing was on the wall, it’s easy to be happily out of touch. From the vilification we read in overseas news, it’s is as if the expats and the vestiges of the old colonial airline are equally at fault. The airline I was lucky enough to join in the 80’s seems sadly to be very different from the one demonised by the HK government today. |
Not sure I mentioned anything about agreeing with what they have done with bases, salary, conditions, medical, lifestyle, rosters. I only insinuated that at least someone is addressing the huge elephant in the room, maybe it’s just a PR stunt or maybe it helps with the insurance when there is an incident. CX is a business operating in China, it needs to pander to the government. It is a business that requires revenue to survive, and for anyone that works for them to survive. I also mentioned he will eventually fall on his sword, he will definitely take his bonus and walk away. At least he has made the general public aware of the crazy restrictions all the crews have been abiding by for nearly 2 years - all to allow the old folks their daily dose of abalone and lobster. Do I think he or any other manager cares much for the welfare? No. Read the yammer posts, people want some sort of support from the top for the constant abuse they are receiving from the media and general public.
|
|
FWIW, a fair number of princes are leaving the sinking ship.
|
Originally Posted by Freehills
(Post 11170581)
FWIW, a fair number of princes are leaving the sinking ship.
|
Originally Posted by Diogenes.
(Post 11170612)
And they're irreplaceable! Do you know how hard it is to find managers with cola bottling experience nowadays?
|
True. But the bonuses and housing allowances aren’t enough to make them stay in HK, and they aren’t even having to do the closed loop ****. Food for thought
|
|
New Omicron flow chart - to be inserted at the next Ops Manual A update:
(Doesn’t matter if you don’t read barb-wire, it’s self explanatory) https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ab4612b44.jpeg And in some other news: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ndemic-worsens https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....97163d2b1.jpeg From the horses mouth: “What you have been through during the past two years is quite simply unparalleled.” (and cheers to MY big fat bonus) :ok: |
Originally Posted by Cury Lamb
(Post 11170999)
New Omicron flow chart - to be inserted at the next Ops Manual A update:
(Doesn’t matter if you don’t read barb-wire, it’s self explanatory) https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ab4612b44.jpeg |
Yes:
Cafay Specific - the mother of all evil. (in the eyes of the govt, public etc.) Any other questions? |
CX gets what it deserves.
The FUNNY thing is all the pilots that are moaning 24/7 are still putting their names down for CL/EDTF/TERPS! That's beyond a joke. You are causing your own pain. Time away from family... Mental health... Getting locked up in PB... Have not seen family in 2 years... and the list goes on but, pay us more for loops, give me more credit! :ugh: How about considering your family or mental health and take some time off! At the end of this year COS18 is in full force, schooling is reduced to nothing, housing is finished, medical is already absolutely useless and then we will be all on minimum pay. But most people are asking for more money LOL. I guess the company can buy your mental health! :D |
Originally Posted by herewego75
(Post 11171076)
CX gets what it deserves.
The FUNNY thing is all the pilots that are moaning 24/7 are still putting their names down for CL/EDTF/TERPS! That's beyond a joke. You are causing your own pain. Time away from family... Mental health... Getting locked up in PB... Have not seen family in 2 years... and the list goes on but, pay us more for loops, give me more credit! :ugh: How about considering your family or mental health and take some time off! At the end of this year COS18 is in full force, schooling is reduced to nothing, housing is finished, medical is already absolutely useless and then we will be all on minimum pay. But most people are asking for more money LOL. I guess the company can buy your mental health! :D The company won’t be around to pay for your health. Mental or otherwise. |
Originally Posted by herewego75
(Post 11171076)
CX gets what it deserves.
The FUNNY thing is all the pilots that are moaning 24/7 are still putting their names down for CL/EDTF/TERPS! That's beyond a joke. You are causing your own pain. Time away from family... Mental health... Getting locked up in PB... Have not seen family in 2 years... and the list goes on but, pay us more for loops, give me more credit! :ugh: How about considering your family or mental health and take some time off! At the end of this year COS18 is in full force, schooling is reduced to nothing, housing is finished, medical is already absolutely useless and then we will be all on minimum pay. But most people are asking for more money LOL. I guess the company can buy your mental health! :D Inflicting oneself to this mental anguish for financial compensation says a lot about the profession. In other countries their self worth is slightly higher, but CX has found a new bottom. This truly is the ‘boiler room’ on a 1800’s Swire steam ship. |
All times are GMT. The time now is 03:44. |
Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.