Jimmy was right.

Although it's a little known fact that he lived well into old age mostly in a houseboat on Lake Erie graciously provided by Anthony Provenzano. With the agreement he keep a low profile.

He did have Elvis over a few times though.

No, I don’t know the implications, hence the questions about what your bloody point is ;-)

As for 19 years ago: how long ago did they tear up your rostering practises, because they couldn’t get their way in “normal” negotiations (if there ever was such a thing)?
Speaking of which: whatever happened to that court case in which cx was challenged for not following the HKG labour laws any more (1 in 7) ;-)

Exactly my point. So when the aoa says “end of contract compliance” WHAT DOES this actually mean?
Are they now saying that their legal team told them that we don’t have to? and if I did, will they expel me from the aoa?

Contract compliance is doing the same thing that the union is doing...nothing at all

Why don’t you walk into their offices and ask them what it means.
It always amazed me how many of us are/were not able to read between the lines and understand there are/were certain things they couldn’t put down in writing.
But what I really don’t understand is that how few of us could have been bothered to find out.
It’s only your career and earnings we’re talking about.
All these “great” ideas that are coming out now that cc is over.
Have you ever talked to your union rep about it?
Oh no, I forgot, they are and always have been useless.

@STW: sorry, my glasses must be really thick, because I still don’t get your point. Must be me.

The "snowflakes" don't know who Jimmy Hoffer was !
Now if Jimmy had been running the HKAOA ........................................... !!!

Hoffa, not Hoffer...

I guess the implication is that anyone who joined post 49ers should have known exactly what they were joining

Thanks Freehills, now I get it.
So you think STW also infers those people should just STFU and let themselves be steamrolled into bankruptcy (like cx did to some UK-and Australian based guys when they illegally took control of their tax affairs and gave them illegal directives to finalise their tax affairs in HKG)?

But in that case, he’s contraDICKting himself.
Why would the people who we KNEW mistreated their pilot population so badly, give those same pilots 25% more salary just for playing nice?

STW, like you, I am sick of tired old arguments, but from my vantage point it is YOU who keeps spouting the same old bull**** over and over.
My salary slip wouldn’t include 25% more money if we wouldn’t have been in cc all these years.
Neither you nor I can prove our theory, because it’s all “ancient” history now, but let’s see what happens now that cc is over.
With your stellar argumentation we should all get a 25% payrise in the upcoming 5(?) years?
Oh wait, COVID; there’s always an out for people like you. Are you Lindsey Graham or Ted Cruz?

Yes HOFFA Sorry my spellcheck gone bananas.

Seriously. You can transfer your pilot skills to being a spell checker. Stimulating debate beyond you. Spellcheck please.

About the fired colleague, I believe the words the company used were “wilful neglect”

And now, the union agreement is cancelled too, along with all the other agreements.
This Friday... That Friday... Halloween? It doesn’t really matter anymore.
The company will publish their plans sooner or later, some disappointments, some expected, and some surprises.

It does matter to some of us. Announce the decision and let us get on with our lives.

Any Nigerians or West Africans affected in CPA?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
what on earth does that have to do with anything?

Wanted to help the broda come back home

Still waiting for my transparent, see through, not quite there, “free” HKAOA lanyard reflecting the end of recognition and TB/CC.
Are we still meant to be wearing the red one?