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SCMP 2 Feb 2019
This management truly are tone deaf. The very day after their resounding defeat, the inevitable article in the SCMP basically insisting that we "turned down an offer of improved conditions", and that we are also "the only group who has not contributed to cost savings". RH, you keep digging that hole just a little bit deeper. All the encouragement needed to accept that offer from my next employer. Moron.
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Yes indeed, just as you would expect from the company. The real issue is that there is no press release from us explaining why we rejected this pathetic offer, and rebutting the CX spin. Why wasn’t such a release drafted and ready to go? Oh that’s right, our chairman and GC are in agreement with CX on this. So the AOA should just add +1 to whatever CX spout. |
Originally Posted by Air Profit
(Post 10377932)
This management truly are tone deaf. The very day after their resounding defeat, the inevitable article in the SCMP basically insisting that we "turned down an offer of improved conditions", and that we are also "the only group who has not contributed to cost savings". RH, you keep digging that hole just a little bit deeper. All the encouragement needed to accept that offer from my next employer. Moron.
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It is almost unbelievable. The Company put out a press release that states that the aircrew do not contribute! There can be no agreement with the Management while they continue such a campaign against their own staff. |
Doesn't us rejecting the pay offer inadvertently contribute to cost savings?
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What a load of deceitful, disingenuous drivel. How about the fact that the pilot group has been subsidizing CX with the following:
- No cost of living, inflation adjusted payrise for what, at least a decade? - Medical care that is so pared down that it is scraping the bottom of the Hong Kong medical barrel. - Their paltry and unsustainable Hong Kong Pilot's Allowance for locally employed pilots. - The capricious and arbitrary non-payment of the annual 13th month bonus (while every other labor group received it). - The unilateral changes to the rostering policies that are detrimental to the pilot group's quality of life and bottom line. And yet, they can make these outrageous public declarations that are blatant lies and they go unanswered. Why the hell doesn't the Union have an established public information program to educate the public. The only thing CX seems to be competent at is spin and optics. You guys should have been leading from the front on this from the outset. How about taking some of those war chest levies and using them to hire a public information officer? |
Originally Posted by Ben revoD
(Post 10377937)
Yes indeed, just as you would expect from the company. The real issue is that there is no press release from us explaining why we rejected this pathetic offer, and rebutting the CX spin. Why wasn’t such a release drafted and ready to go? Oh that’s right, our chairman and GC are in agreement with CX on this. So the AOA should just add +1 to whatever CX spout. |
Originally Posted by Starbear
(Post 10377988)
You have it absolutely correct in your first sentence. Unions are notoriously poor in the PR area in general.
Why not have a pre-prepared press statement for either outcome? It's not rocket science. It doesn't need to be inflammatory, simply a factual letter stating the facts from the AOA perspective. It isn't surprising that the SCMP writes in this way though - the work ethic in Hong Kong is set up to protect the employer. |
Originally Posted by Roy De Kantzow
(Post 10377998)
The HKAOA are notoriously poor at PR.
Why not have a pre-prepared press statement for either outcome? It's not rocket science. It doesn't need to be inflammatory, simply a factual letter stating the facts from the AOA perspective. It isn't surprising that the SCMP writes in this way though - the work ethic in Hong Kong is set up to protect the employer. |
Originally Posted by unitedabx
(Post 10378043)
For this you need leadership. The union hasn't had that for 2 years. Time for the GC and DS to resign. Letters by Monday morning please or you'll all be kicked out by lunchtime.
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Is there likely to be any strike action because of this? Just planning a trip to Europe and getting a little concerned that flights might get cancelled! |
Originally Posted by The Bullwinkle
(Post 10378703)
Is there likely to be any strike action because of this? Just planning a trip to Europe and getting a little concerned that flights might get cancelled! |
That's right, it was during the post CNY rush. |
Originally Posted by kenfoggo
(Post 10377955)
It is almost unbelievable. The Company put out a press release that states that the aircrew do not contribute! There can be no agreement with the Management while they continue such a campaign against their own staff. |
They all want to be from the Michael O’leary school of management. Why be angry, its just a game. No one likes Swire as employers , only the gullable or naive. Be glad you not in KA, seems an initial offer of ZERO percent may well be put to the membership, with a 3 % raise to HDP. Thats around a HK $500month increase for most captains. Pathetic. |
Originally Posted by TheGreenDragon
(Post 10378775)
They all want to be from the Michael O’leary school of management. Why be angry, its just a game. No one likes Swire as employers , only the gullable or naive. Be glad you not in KA, seems an initial offer of ZERO percent may well be put to the membership, with a 3 % raise to HDP. Thats around a HK $500month increase for most captains. Pathetic. |
hmmm,...considering the recent vote by the CX pilots, it would be the perfect time for the DPA pilots to pile on and insist on proper contract terms. I doubt CX management could handle a civil war on two fronts. Why on earth any GC would recommend "0" percent is beyond me (oh...wait...not much different than our feckless GC). Seriously everyone, it's time to stop accepting abuse, disrespect and constant career erosion from this toxic management. Proper contract increases in pay and benefits, or you can find your operation grinding to a virtual halt with a TB and CC. Not that difficult.
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On a personal note, the fact that the CEO willingly allowed an article in the SCMP the very day after the vote, blaming the pilots (and distorting the truth) means that regardless of any settlement between company and union, I am a CC'er for life. That is what 20+ years of abuse brings you. On a personal note to RH, perhaps you can pick up last weeks edition of Flight International. At the back there is an obituary to Herb Kelleher, the much missed CEO of Southwest Airlines. The qualities and philosophy of that man are the complete antithesis of what our CEO(s) represent, and for that reason they are all small, forgettable human beings in comparison to a man who truly cared and looked after his employees. RIP Herb.
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Originally Posted by unitedabx
(Post 10378782)
Rumour has it DPA has suggested the members accept. They haven't the stomach for a fight.
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This is the same individual who in September stated the DPA were briefed about COS18 prior to its rollout. Just another troll, trying to inflame....
Keep up with the false accusations and it might backfire. |
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