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Originally Posted by unitedabx
(Post 10378782)
Rumour has it DPA has suggested the members accept. They haven't the stomach for a fight.
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Originally Posted by boocs
(Post 10379572)
That is not the case. Wrong! b. |
The part about DPA members not having the stomach for a fight is true. The membership has been diluted by standard contract pilots who have a different motivation and are from a much varied demographic than B scale members. They are generally 20 years younger, and are not in HK because it pays a good whack. They are socially more integrated to local culture and are accepting of their terms and conditions. Small living spaces and taking the bus for an hour to work are considered as normal. Its hard to equate the desires of B and C scale , so to remain neutral will be the most palatable from the DPA comm |
Originally Posted by TheGreenDragon
(Post 10379595)
The part about DPA members not having the stomach for a fight is true. The membership has been diluted by standard contract pilots who have a different motivation and are from a much varied demographic than B scale members. They are generally 20 years younger, and are not in HK because it pays a good whack. They are socially more integrated to local culture and are accepting of their terms and conditions. Small living spaces and taking the bus for an hour to work are considered as normal. Its hard to equate the desires of B and C scale , so to remain neutral will be the most palatable from the DPA comm |
Babbalito, apologies for not understanding your post. Can you tell me in what way Expat B are “f# #king over the SC? If we joined on a different contract, blame the Airline management, not your co-workers; Lots of jobs around, if you don’t like what you get here move somewhere else. |
A fairer way forward would be for expat B to take an overall freeze in pay and financial benefits allowing all increases to go to SC. |
I’m b scale but I never felt ffed over by the a scale, although it was always funny when they would open their little mini photo album and show off their cars, planes, houses.. You get what you signed up for... |
Give the DPA a chance. The com have only just agreed a framework for negotiations. No one has suggested anyone accept anything. Negotiate haven’t even started yet. The bull**** flies thick and fast on this site sometimes. Bab. How about you freeze your contract until the cos 18 guys get to your level and then you can talk to the B scalers about doing the same? Or, here’s a novel thought, why not stop criticising your colleagues and instead try and work together to lift all contracts? Just an idea |
Originally Posted by flyhardmo
(Post 10379903)
A fairer way would be if you didn’t sign an inferior contract undercutting your peers then trying to get them to subsidize your poor decisions. You're expecting a pilot who may be unemployed or looking to further their career to not sign a contract in order to protect someone [you] they don't know? How about you try and protect your contract and prevent the inferior contract becoming available in the first place? This view point is symptomatic of a weak bodied pilot community who always want to pass the buck. Same goes for the argument of relying on others leaving a company in order to force the company to improve terms. I'd say if a contract is available then it's fair game... |
This is a stupid view point. You're expecting a pilot who may be unemployed or looking to further their career to not sign a contract in order to protect someone [you] they don't know? How about you try and protect your contract and prevent the inferior contract becoming available in the first place? This view point is symptomatic of a weak bodied pilot community who always want to pass the buck. Same goes for the argument of relying on others leaving a company in order to force the company to improve terms. I'd say if a contract is available then it's fair game... |
There are plenty of SC pilots who are tired of subsidizing expat B pilots while the latter continue to f##k over the former. A fairer way forward would be for expat B to take an overall freeze in pay and financial benefits allowing all increases to go to SC. |
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