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FUANNA 9th Sep 2017 03:54

Dear Anna
 
Dear Anna,

your pilots have built the reputation as the worlds safest airline over the past decades.

That's why the traveling public is (still) willing to pay a premium on our airfares.

The 'crisis' we are facing is self-fabricated, and a result of running CX as a hedge-fund for commodities.

Your attack on our livelihoods and families will be answered with an unprecedented show of strength and unity.

We built this airline, and we will take it down with us, if we have to.

The true managers of this airline are the pilots. Not your lot of mediocre and greedy accountants, who know the cost of everything but the value of nothing.

You will find this out shortly.

Trafalgar 9th Sep 2017 16:39

Amen Fuanna. Could not agree more. To my colleagues: resolve to resist and attack to reinforce the future value of your careers. Otherwise you will have nothing left to defend.

a370 9th Sep 2017 17:06

As an outsider , I agree whole heartedly with the above posters sentiments . Its stirring.
However , with regards

"Your attack on our livelihoods and families will be answered with an unprecedented show of strength and unity."

There is absolutely no chance in hell this will ever happen .

Now please go and pi$$ in your collective ex pat holes, and take a hike from your mummy milk Co.

HKA will rule. LOL.

betpump5 9th Sep 2017 17:35

This clown again.

Trafalgar 9th Sep 2017 23:58

it's interesting to see how bitter he is at being turned down at CX.....but at least we dodged the bullet of having to work with him.

FUANNA 10th Sep 2017 03:19

Dear Anna,

the next level of resistance will be a mass resignation of your few remaining trainers.

This step has been prepared and carefully orchestrated behind the scenes for quite some time.

The VAST majority of us trainers supports this step to protect our profession and livelihoods.

Your 2018 Airbus deliveries will find a cosy parking spot somewhere in the desert.

Enough is enough, Anna.

pfvspnf 10th Sep 2017 03:36

A370 are you high or what ? Not too much psychometric testing when entering the airline in this region we can clearly see

a370 10th Sep 2017 03:53

Don't shoot the messenger. Anna is saying the same, just with more eloquence lol.

So, Traf, please enlighten us all. When are you going to resign from training in protest at the forthcoming cuts in TnC's? Hmmmm I though so, lol.

Captain Dart 10th Sep 2017 03:55

Do try to keep up, a370.

raven11 10th Sep 2017 04:11

A370

Have you not read all the other posts today??

Or are you eager to prove you're always...a day late...and a dollar short.

Cpt. Underpants 10th Sep 2017 12:13

Anna, please read this.
Don't discount it, it's not a trick or a ploy.
This is the reality you're facing.

http://flip.it/SdtnS8

Progress Wanchai 10th Sep 2017 13:21

Cpt. Underpants,

You're not getting it.
Anna doesn't care if CX is here in 12 months or not. Her Swire survival and promotion is based on gaining concessions from flight crew. That's what her KPI is based on.

bm330 10th Sep 2017 15:02

And that's what is most important. She works for Swire and when this Airline is gone, she'll still be working for Swire.

FreemaninHK 10th Sep 2017 15:39


Originally Posted by bm330 (Post 9887789)
And that's what is most important. She works for Swire and when this Airline is gone, she'll still be working for Swire.

So what is most important.. is we get rid of her.

Thru whatever means.

kahaha 11th Sep 2017 01:28

Meanwhile, Last year the DPA put forward a motion of a pay freeze to its members. The membership that voted, overwhelmingly accepted the motion, with a caveat that the agreement would be for one year.

Since then, the former GM has left the company, so there's a new Boss to negotiate with. The company are now indicating they want 2 further years of pay freeze from the DPA, to be reviewed in 2020.

Some concessions for local
Employees are expected but zero for the senior B scale pilots.

The decline in pay for the KA pilot group is around 4% compounded over 3 years. Or 5 if you take into account the 2% pay adjustments in 2015/2016.

The company continues to attract qualified , experienced pilots from mainly europe. Command progression is quick , presuming you can jump through the hoops. But theres the pitfall. The new joining pilot may be experienced , but not necessarily be a fit for the esotericism of the KA way when it comes to command.
Interesting times ahead.

Dan Winterland 11th Sep 2017 04:48

Many of these guys come here expecting the command - it's the only way they can survive on the package. If they don't hack it, many leave.

drfaust 11th Sep 2017 05:54

As long as everyone is actually on the same page with regards to what a salary increase actually is. Inflation corrections on your salary are not salary increases. They are compensation for the constant devaluation of money over time. Not compensating for inflation would be a pay cut, not a pay "freeze" as is being suggested. I expect the DPA will be hammering this With whomever they will be negotiating.

With regards to these productivity gains I keep reading about it's fairly simple: Gain them by increasing efficiency. We still have a lot to gain there if we do 170 duty hours for 75 block hours and 30 to 40 sectors.

Looks pretty straight forward from where I sit.

positionalpor 12th Sep 2017 13:59

Published on: Tuesday, September, 12, 2017, 03:27 PM
By: AeroTime staff Image :Ralf Manteufel
The bankrupt German carrier Air Berlin has canceled more than 110 flights on September 12. A representative of the airline confirmed that the company is “currently seeing an exceptionally high number of sickness reports of pilots”. The exact number was not specified to AeroTime but the company had previously stated to Deutsche Welle that around 200 of the 1500 pilots employed by the carrier had called in sick for the day.

With around 110 flights canceled, passengers are being requested to check whether their flight was affected or not on the airline’s website. So far, there is information about Berlin, Dusseldorf, Cologne, and Hamburg being among the cities affected by the cancellations.

“Passengers holding tickets for canceled flights will be offered other travel options,” an Air Berlin spokesperson answered AeroTime’s inquiry. “Affected passengers are kindly asked not to come to the airport and to call the Air Berlin Service Center.”

Speculations about this incident being a form of protest have surfaced in Bild, Germany’s top tabloid newspaper. The situation does, in fact, remind of similar cancellations affecting TUIfly flights a year earlier. Back then, pilots’ calling in sick was the quoted reason of mass absence as well.

According to the official statement published on the website of Vereinigung Cockpit, the professional union representing German pilots, the union did not receive any information regarding pilots that had fallen ill.

“VC points out to all the flight crew it represents that they must fulfill their obligations under the employment contract, provided there is acute illness,” the official statement says.

Vereinigung Cockpit was not available for immediate comment.

Marius Stonkus, CEO of Skycop.com – a company fighting for passengers’ rights to a compensation – told AeroTime that crew sickness might not necessarily fall under the definition of force majeure.

“That’s a very unpleasant situation for all the passengers concerned,” Marius Stonkus told AeroTime. “I’m pretty sure there are going to appear some losses for passengers due to ruined plans. And to cover up those they can claim for compensation up to 600 EUR per passenger. It won’t be easy because most certainly airline will reject claims by saying crew sickness falls under “extraordinary circumstances” list”.

The wave of cancellations is unrelated to the simultaneous cancellations of another 100 or so Ryanair flights to Southern Europe from the Irish carrier’s main UK base – Stansted. Delays and cancellations, in this case, have been caused by an air traffic controllers’ strike in France.

poydras 12th Sep 2017 14:47

Dear Anna...........



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7wEbD8pJTQ

Trafalgar 12th Sep 2017 16:44

I know one pilot who just hit his 30 year mark. Not a single word of acknowledgement....not even from the fleet office. Disgraceful is the only word.

22N114E 12th Sep 2017 17:47

Adding insult to injury Traf, in last Friday's Flyer she acknowledged the retirement of two gentlemen. For the most long serving (at 28 years) she could not get his military service nor the types flown as a Commander with CX correct!

BusyB 12th Sep 2017 18:08

The Fleet Offices and their mangers are just as bad!!

cxorcist 12th Sep 2017 18:30


Originally Posted by BusyB (Post 9889702)
The Fleet Offices and their mangers are just as bad!!

To be fair BB, I think the fleet offices are doing the same amount of work with fewer people. That said, it's still a disgrace.

Trafalgar 13th Sep 2017 00:59

Although we have bigger issues to battle at the moment, the point being raised here speaks volumes as to the reason this company, and particularly Flt Ops and employee relations are so dysfunctional. If managers spend every waking hour complaining about their staff, not appreciating their efforts and skills, and in particular focusing all their attention on 'getting back' at said staff, you end up with the unholy mess that is CX. Well done Swires. :/

mngmt mole 13th Sep 2017 04:19

Traf is right. And further to that point, why would anyone wish to tie the future of their careers, and the future of their families to a company that has demonstrated for over TWENTY years that they have no regard for their staff, their hopes and desires or their overall well-being ? The only sane option is to seek out a better employer and a better place to live. Those that live with false hope that CX will ever get better will be sadly disillusioned.

betpump5 13th Sep 2017 07:33

There is a lot of ill feeling and stress on the Flight deck these days due to what is happening.

I hope when the next inflammatory stressful email comes out, all 2800 pilots will do the professional and responsible thing....(whether you read it or not)

Edited for BCs purpose..

Trafalgar 13th Sep 2017 08:33

I agree. The next email or Friday Flyer will do it. Otherwise you can guarantee you will not have a career worth saving. Ask some of the older pilots how effective this strategy was back in 98/99. It is the only thing these self-serving managers will understand.

broadband circuit 13th Sep 2017 11:16

I for one won't be booking off sick. Why? you ask....

Because I don't read the Friday Liar, and didn't read that recent email from The Emu. So, my stress levels are way down.

Stop reading that crap. If it's not in the ops manual, or FCOM, or an NTC, it's not worth the stress. Try it. Seriously, try it. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made.

Trafalgar 13th Sep 2017 11:31

So when the nazis were threatening the U.K, and Churchill was warning of the danger, you would have ignored his advice (or not even taken the time to read it). Ok, there's always going to be one idiot putting his head in the sand. I'm sure AT appreciates you declaring you won't go sick.

betpump5 13th Sep 2017 11:54

Broadband circuit - I was trying to make a subtle point...

Strewth 13th Sep 2017 12:36

Head of Flight Crew Employee Relations CX Job portal 110917

betpump5 13th Sep 2017 13:36

I watched I.T the other night. Not as good as the original. Wife asked me would I sh1t myself if I suddenly saw a Clown in the street.

Guess what I told her...

(Punchlines on a Post card please)

FUANNA 13th Sep 2017 14:05

Dear Anna,

it is obvious to us, that your own survival here depends very much on a concession made by us. Your pilots.

But guess what, Anna. It ain't happening. Not even a tiny little concession. You know why?

Even though your glossy charts suggest otherwise (only because you forgot to consider inflation), the average pilot today costs you only a fraction of what it did 15 years ago, due to lack of proper housing/payrise/profit sharing etc etc., and all that while we are based in the most expensive city on this planet.

At the same time however, you managed to increase the average productivity per pilot significantly.

People work more for less.

You get the picture, Anna, don't you?! No concessions from us. Because they were made already over the years.

You dig your filthy hands a tiny bit deeper into our pokets, and we will close this freak show of an airline down for you.

You will see, Anna.

Cpt. Underpants 13th Sep 2017 16:01

https://www.inquisitr.com/1889791/ha...ss-depression/

Mill Worker 14th Sep 2017 05:12


Originally Posted by Strewth (Post 9890575)

I can think of a guy that would be really good at doing that job... in fact he did...

LongTimeInCX 14th Sep 2017 10:27

Doesn't make me wonder at all Frank!
The fact that in depth details have been kept deliberately vague would cause most enquiring minds to quickly make up their mind about the issue.

And as for the recently departed individual, who was mentioned by MillWorker to be ideal for the job, in many respects yes, there are many who would agree. However, the position is a somewhat adversarial role, and the gentleman in question has people skills, morals and loyalty in spades, that alone would make him over qualified for such a position. An absolute gentleman.

Shot Nancy 14th Sep 2017 11:11

Why doesn't anyone talk about the value of a good aviator anymore?

boresite 16th Sep 2017 23:52

[QUOTE=Strewth;9890575]Head of Flight Crew Employee Relations CX Job portal 110917[/QUOTE

Looks like lots of targeted recruiting......

Flight Crew People Services Manager (Absence) - Cathay Pacific Cathay Pacific
Location: Hong Kong
Job type: Permanent
Sector: Flight Crew
Job Role: Senior Manager Jobs
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Location: Hong Kong

Department: Flight Operations

Reports to: Head of Flight Crew People Services

Purpose:

* To maintain oversight of the entire Absence Management function and team, and ensure jurisdictional compliance of the relevant Absence Management / Attendance Policies and Processes, relevant Sick Leave policies and Medical Clearances in conjunction with the Cathay Pacific or Cathay Dragon People Services Manager.

* To provide support to all areas of the Absence Management Team (AMT), and assist where necessary.

* To be responsible for identifying potential areas of automation and improvement where possible, to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of the team.

* To provide regular reports and updates to the Head of Flight Crew People Services.

Responsibilities:

* Maintain oversight and management of the Absence Management Team (AMT)

* Update Senior Management on significant absence and sickness related matters

* Accountable for the effective execution and management of the Pilots Absence / Attendance Management policies / processes and relevant Sick Leave policies. Where areas of improvement have been identified, the AMT Manager will be responsible for driving these efficiency improvement projects

* Monitor absence trends in all jurisdictions, manage all absence related issues and drive actions to resolve trends and issues where necessary. Strive to achieve the agreed sickness rate target for each year to minimise manpower costs

* Document and review patterned Long Term Sick

* Represent the Absence Management Team to work in partnership with Corporate Medical and the Fleet Office on Flight Crew’s sickness and absence related issues. Attend review meetings with Flight Crew under the ‘Stages’ of the Absence / Attendance Management policies if required.

* Advise Flight Crew on absence and sickness policies, and the Medical Clearance process. Ensure the effective education of Flight Crew in their obligations to Cathay Pacific or Cathay Dragon and the Hong Kong Civil Aviation Department (HKCAD) in regards to absence. This includes documentation and reporting requirements.

* Handle difficult questions, and manage these situations through influencing and education. Liaise with Fleet Office in situations that require further attention and care from the Flight Crew People Services Managers.

* Work with service providers with the objective of reviewing or formulating new strategies to address absence issues.

* Maintain and update letter templates to be sent to Flight Crew in the event of noncompliance or required follow up.

* Assist the Absence Management Executive in the oversight of sick allowance payments.

* Support the Absence Management Executive in ensuring that the Medical Clearance process is managed effectively, and minimise roster disruptions.

* Provide additional necessary support to the AMT where required.

* Carry out any other duties as assigned by Head of Flight Crew People Services.

* Preserve the confidentiality of privileged, sensitive or otherwise confidential company and individual employee information.

Requirements:

* University degree in HR or related discipline.

* Minimum 8 years of airline or professional experience working with people of different levels and cultural backgrounds.

* At least 5 years of previous leadership and people management experience, ideally in multinational organisations.

* Solid experience working in a collaborative environment, with the ability to effectively interact with management teams at all levels of seniority.

* Good knowledge of the relevant ordinances and best practices to ensure legal and contractual compliance. Knowledge on other countries’ legislation will be an added advantage.

* Knowledge of pilots’ policies and procedures, and a good understanding of the pilots’ culture would be an advantage.

* Strong communication, influencing and interpersonal skills.

* A strong driver of change and development.

* Excellent command of spoken and written English.

* Computer literacy, proficient in MS Office applications.

Competencies:

* Setting Directions

* Leading and engaging teams

* Driving business performance and change

* Developing and recognizing others

Application Deadline: 8 Sep 2017

Cathay Pacific is an Equal Opportunities Employer. Personal data provided by job applicants will be used strictly in accordance with our personal data policy and for recruitment purposes only. Candidates not notified within eight weeks may consider their application unsuccessful. All related information will be kept in our file for up to 24 months. A copy of our Personal Information Collection Statement will be provided upon request by contacting our Data Protection Officer.

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BusyB 17th Sep 2017 09:12

Ryanair cancelling up to 50 flights a day for 6 weeks due crews having to have annual leave. I guess that's because salary's aren't high enough to keep pilots (off to other airlines)and recruit sufficient new ones. Perhaps AT could learn from this!!!!

Bob Hawke 17th Sep 2017 12:47

Wouldn't need an absent manager if they could write a decent roster.


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