Anotherday. Your continuing optimism and sunny outlook is comforting and appreciated. :hmm:

As is your unwavering hypocrisy Trafalgar....

Goal posts moved. Well done HKAOA.

Quite.

The squeakiest wheel in the forum; and there are often good points in the ranting. Alas, it's all just bluster.

Trafalgar and Anotherday you forget that we got offered HKPA deals twice before it was put in the TA last year but the AOA chose not to let us vote on that. So what did you expect was going to happen...

Anotherday, putting everyone in the same boat I see? all C scale joiners are 1-2 years into aviation? doubt it, before you go saying this crap do some research and don't come misinformed. I personally have spent 5-10 years in GA and came to CX with 5000hrs, many are the same now but you chose to not see this? Maybe some respect for the new joiners might get you some respect back.

Why are you even commenting on the HKPA forum if it doesn't affect you?

5000 hrs TT & 5-10 years in aviation (GA) and you saw the CX iCadet C-Scale as a smart career move? That says more about the person than anything else. Boasting about such time yet only good enough for the CX C-Scale iCadetship isn't something to be proud of fella!!

"I've been at university for 10 years!" What? Completing a 3 year Arts Degree & wondering why reputable companies who offer real salaries to remunerate real professionals didn't come knocking?? You don't get it do you?

"It doesn't affect you...." What an ignorant & arrogant opinion. That's up there with saying the price of oil in Saudi Arabia doesn't affect the fuel a person puts in their car in Singapore.

And you demand respect? Your existence & intense defence of what you proudly applied to receive (C-Scale) places a severe and undeniable pressure on all other pilots at CX. Just because a disgraceful salary & its contract was all you could muster as a career serves no right to bring the others down, despite what so many ignorant compatriots of yours believe. And you have the audacity to converse about "respect"? Your arrogant existence to place undeniable pressure to take money from other pilots, their families & degrade the profession & you want "respect"?

But you will. And you'll defend your right to. And think that you're some doyan of a professional pilot by screwing your betters over. (And yes, they are better. They earned a job & a remuneration package that you couldn't comprehend). They see what you can't & refuse to: the future.

You ignorant & arrogant gen-Y / millennial types want to complain against what you asked for, begged for & defended your right to have. Pathetic.

China, Yet again you guys think you know it all! I was not boasting at all merely defending the SO group when another day says we all have little time and 1-2 years in our careers. So yes if another day had actually respected some of the SO's enough to have a chat on the flight deck he would realise he is wrong.

Now, I could have gone to a lot of places but I did my research. You say the C scale is pathetic? you clearly have not done your research! Where would you go? oh I should just stay in oz not flying a Jet long haul when that is what I actually want to do because it will upset the older guys at CX? now who is being arrogant?

Your way of personally attacking someone shows the type of person you are! you do not know me or what I have done to get my career to where I have (as pathetic as you may think that is).

At what point did you hear me complain about my package?

A LOSE/LOSE conversation.

Arse, unfortunately you're right. You're allowed to have a opinion as long as it's the same as theirs right?

Thanks pacflyer for some truth. With that experience you/we also got a check for 100,000 US for joining. Enticing, yes.

Why is it looked so bad upon for trying to improve our package? I know what I signed up for and now given the opportunity will try to improve it! F*** me right?

Ugh that Chinabeached guy sounds like a right tosser. Meet you at Stauntons in an hour old mate for a beer and a tap on the beak

What's fabulous is that he is still ranting on here, a decade after his interview. Long, insulting rants coupled with a bit of self-promotion. He is the epitome of a loser. I'm amazed he hasn't been sectioned yet, and I know some of our more seasoned brethren have contacted him out of concern for his mental state.

I will miss him when the inevitable happens.

China, you really are a miserable person aren't you? It's a forum which many type from their phones so I apologise I offended you with my ill use of capital letters.

The question remains, are you at CX? helping others get into other reputable airlines?

Your'e right I quoted about making our position better, of course when its offered! I never complained about the current package but why should I decline an offered increase?

Also being a forum you should think about trying to expose who people are and calling them idiots when you clearly don't know them. If you'd like to PM me and tell me more about myself go ahead but please remember to tell me who you are, or too scared?

We are all allowed to speak our opinion as are you. It's a forum for HKPA...

I did my research yes and no this wasn't the only place that would take me, for me the whole package is about more than work which is why I chose here. Thats right yes I enjoy my life in Hong Kong.

Hahaha yep he's a real loser alright. Do us all a favour and take your 'superior skills' elsewhere. If truth be told, this clown probably works hard just to get 3's in his PC's. Empty cans make the loudest noise, so on and so forth. Ugh give me a break you moron haha

A rebuttal from 3 likeminded C-Scalers who exist only as the dregs left over from what others refused to accept & what you lapped up and said thank you for.

I use facts and your own histories to argue against you. You haven't the same ability.

iPhones, tablets - whatever. Ignorance is as ignorance does. Each of you argue for your right to cr@p on your colleagues for your own gain. One of you is illiterate, but that's the phone's fault? What next? The Pokemon stole your Vol-8?

Your career will forever be marked as a C-Scale iCadet who took a low-life package that others refused to accept. Unions throughout the world have a name for that.

Loser? In the eyes of the likes of you 3 that's a compliment. I've never sh!t on my colleagues, never undercut the market to get a job, never looked to benefit at the expense of others. If my character wouldn't be accepted in your clique then thank you! If you classify yourselves as winners for how your career exists then all the more pathetic shame. My career will never be stained as yours forever is.

Let's see if I can be right again about the implications of C-Scale. Let's see what you do to your colleagues in the near future, say over the next 3-5 years.

Now lets see this fight for your HKPA and the ramifications to the wider pilot body? CX bought the lowest ebb of the wannabe world so what makes you think they see you deserving of more than you bent over to receive in the first place? And you think Swire have a history of giving away money when they don't have to? When the likes of you ignorant self serving and arrogant fools exist to take what they offer in the first place? Only at the expense of your colleagues will you benefit. You know that but you don't care.

(And McScab - yes you are. I've seen your posts and I've seen your replies. You deny it here but not there. In fact you argued to dig yourself out of a hole once exposed even after being called out).

So you can post without checking your spelling but I'm uneducated for a mistake? (Yes I saw it).

I dont even know why you began this argument? do you? I have never tried to undercut my colleagues. I never once said or tried to do anything of the sort, neither do any of the people I know.

I was simply correcting the fact that there are plenty of joiners with significant experience not so little as was said.

The "fact" is that this is a HKPA forum, so us on HKPA are entitled to comment and have an opinion.

You can think whatever makes you happy. You're wrong, again. I, however, am correct in calling you a loser.

Please keep coming back. And while you're at it, tell us where you work again?

Oh, yeah...

Pac: first & foremost this is a public forum. Whilst you may think you need to live in Neverland before being permitted to read the book or comment, that's not quite the case on "public" forum.

I (re)entered this debate as I wished to comment & expose your arrogance. You believe, as you've written it more than once, that only those on the HKPA may comment. No, sorry! Are "entitled" to comment. Whilst you think entitlement is by virtue of arrogance, it's not. Your ignorant efforts to demand more than what you contractually applied to receive, begged to receive, & then defend to receive is pathetic. The B-Scale pilot's are fighting for only what they are contractually entitled to &/or what has been agreed to in prior official negotiations. Yet you with your C-Scale contract that you've been in HK for what? 12 months (going by your interview date as you broadcast on the wannabe forum)? Yet you use the words "entitled"?

Then you boast of your illustrious experience which CX deem you good enough only to be in the same pool as < 500 hr kids. How proud you must be.

Lastly, I commented because you as well as Larry & Moe believe that your efforts to demand a better remuneration package has no bearing on the rest of the pilot body. That they're not "entitled" to comment. Your existence is a serious & undeniable threat to their COS. But you don't see it nor care.

McFly other other hand, he's done more than enough to warrant his own reputation. Tell you where I work? Why? You think I'll submit a CV for you?

So what's wrong with wanting to better your own remuneration package you ask? Nothing. But you simply can't polish a t^rd.

Yes, CB, that's right; I would like you to submit a CV for you, because I'd like nothing more than to share a workplace with you.

Actually, no. I'd like to know who you're working for, because I'll guarantee that despite your mighty aviation prowess, I'll wager your contract is rubbish.

It really is pathetic when a C-Scale fool sees his package as amongst the best in world. You seriously are that remarkably lost in self adornment of the crumbs you scoff at as a bottom-feeder. And think it's a 5 star meal....

Where I work is a place you haven't the experience or credentials to even apply for.