KA 330 Penang
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Hard Landing
Heard it from a fellow KA pilot. 3-pt landing registered nearly 3G's (prob not that high). Saw photos of rivets popped on engine/wing pylon. Got photos from a colleague who parked next to it and had a closer look. Apparently skipper sent back immediately to HK to explain. All this is hearsay but I'm sure the facts can be corroborated in due time.
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Originally Posted by alohajec
(Post 9122282)
Heard it from a fellow KA pilot. 3-pt landing registered nearly 3G's (prob not that high). Saw photos of rivets popped on engine/wing pylon. Got photos from a colleague who parked next to it and had a closer look. Apparently skipper sent back immediately to HK to explain. All this is hearsay but I'm sure the facts can be corroborated in due time.
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Believe it was a three point landing that was closer to 2G. Either way its not flying anytime soon.
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Sometimes it sucks to be PIC
Dunno about that but heard the F/O was PF.
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Landing gear change I heard.
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I don't know how much experience, or what the background of the FO was, but I can hazard a guess... :E
Only a matter of time before this sort of thing starts happening across the road. :ugh: |
The true cost of an Mpl becomes apparant?
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Here's the AVHerald report:
Accident: Dragon A333 at Penang on Sep 16th 2015, hard landing B-HLK, 23 years old, is one of the oldest A330s around. In fact, it was the second A330 prototype. Not worth the repairs. Chances are it will end up as a Kwey Teow restaurant near the airport now. RIP, Lima Kilo... |
Heard that a 777-200 is grounded in Narita with perhaps terminal fatigue damage. Apparently a two-foot crack in a wing? Anyone with any facts? What led to the damage?
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A330 was 2.8G I'm told.
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MPL on A330?
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Just under 2.9 G . The real issue of course was the landing weight. Airbus are still investigating. Expect to be ferry fly to hk and gear replaced at the least. FO is female, HK chinese. Capt is Expat, senior guy FO did landing. They got huge sink rate as possibly manual flying with thrust idlearound 100 feet. Capt tried to recover but the thing hit nosewheel first. Fate of both crew TBD. Previous history would sugest displinary action for the Capt, and the FO to return to line, scott free. Suspect the money saved on hiring this young lady has gone the way of the dodo. I guessed this lady f/o had less experience, so it can happen to an f/o with more than the required command hours. Skippers can no longer afford be macho and take their eyes off the ball during f/o's landing anymore.:\ |
We have never been able to relax whilst letting any FO land an Airbus.......
On the mighty 777 I could assist as required at anytime, not on the plastic fantastic...:eek: That and throttles that don't move...... Absolute genius Airbus, really...:D |
ACMS...that is exactly what the Asiana pilots were thinking in San Fran :ok:
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Yes and Southwest and LGA too. I bet those were glad of the mechanically linked yokes. But, I seem to recall the nose wheel ended up in the avionics bay, no?
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So does that make a first for KA- an MPL induced hull loss? Creative accounting may even show it as a profitable exercise.
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In that case both Pilots were out to lunch and nothing was going to fix that......
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I guessed this lady f/o had less experience, so it can happen to an f/o with more than the required command hours. Skippers can no longer afford be macho and take their eyes off the ball during f/o's landing anymore. |
Originally Posted by 777300ER
(Post 9124101)
The hardest landing I've ever witnessed occurred when I was in the right seat with a fairly senior Captain flying (or not flying for that last 100ft). Just saying...
Anyways....back to subject. |
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