What I want to know is does anyone here have proof that the FO messed up or were the conditions in most part to blame?

Thank for replying to my simply question with a long winded and condescending answer. You sir need to take a chill pill and remove that plug out of where the sun doesn't shine...

Now back to the reasoning for my question, I believe some people do have all the facts and do partake in the forums.. However fact or not every pilot (experienced or not) will make a mistake, its just human nature.

Milking a mouse

Fine example you got there naming a person who is so enthusiactic in his recreational flying he has been suspended by his company after he was caught faking a sickness so he can attend his competitions👍🏻

The first question in a white expat community usually.
Most likely Australians or English.

See this thread:

http://www.pprune.org/australia-new-zealand-pacific/568437-jetstar-sydney-stuff-up.html

So quiet about Samba's post.

Toxic?

No, just tiresome. Either you can fly or you can't. Most of us don't care what race, sex, or nationality you are. Be that as it may, inexperienced pilots tend to struggle more, obviously. Since many of our zero-hour hero "pilots" (yes, spikey hair) are Chinese, this might lead some to racial conclusions. The truth is that inexperienced pilots have no place operating widebody (or narrowbody for that matter) airliners. Unfortunately, our managers don't care or are not brave enough to speak out against this practice which has killed many thousands in Asian airliners in the past. CX/KA is sure to follow suit if the current trajectory isn't altered. Expats will wither on the vine and CX/KA will be no different from other airlines in the region. If you are comfortable with that, fill your boots!!!

OMG. What is happening to me...for the first time ever I have to agree with cxorcist! :confused :uhoh:

100% agree with cxorcist :D

Well said
 

What the cXORCIST said!!!
Enough with the BS...

The problem with this statement is Boeing and Airbus disagree.

They have created these aircraft with all these 'protections' that they are selling them to airlines on the premise that anyone can fly them.

Just ask Tony Fernandes, driving low cost pilot employment to a new low......

So is a cadet & or minimum hours employment scheme tied to a seniority system slave labor....

Discuss.

When you have the relevant experience to move on, will you? When you have to join the bottom pay scale of a new seniority list.

KABOY,
Purlease.!!!..:O
Let's not get into a boeing vs airbus quagmire. They both have their own specific challenges. Examples of mode confusion, pwr vs attitude mismanagement can - easily - be found for both types.

I don't want to sound like a bitter wannabe cadet but I went for the interview last year and didn't get past 1b. I started training for my PPL in high school with about 100hrs, went to a top University for economics (irrelevant but still should be considered), I've had an internship working for the largest aviation oil and gas company in the world, I volunteer with the air cadets and teach ground school. I genuinely have a passion for aviation. They took someone who was studying to be an accountant. :mad:

Kaboy

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The problem with this statement is Boeing and Airbus disagree.

They have created these aircraft with all these 'protections' that they are selling them to airlines on the premise that anyone can fly them.

Unfortunately I can show you a number of hull losses that contradict the statement above ...inexperience will get you every time .
But the way inexperienced pilots ,like doctors , learn is by operational exposure guided by a more experienced crew members

Fox-----one piece of advice my friend. Never give up, if you want it bad enough you'll find a way. :ok:

They chose someone studying to be an accountant
 

Fox....... Another piece of advice.

Both of you seem to have been studying to "be" something rather irrelevant/different to a commercial airline pilot.

I assume both of you in fact now want to "be" something different than what your credentials indicate and your current activities show. It is not uncommon to experience this change of heart after your university studies have begun.

My opinion is that "they" portrayed their passion and focus in what they really wanted to do, THIS time, a bit better than you did. My advice is for you to show your passion and focus at your next interview. Don't be afraid to admit your studies are not taking you where your heart is and that in effect you've changed your mind.

After all, the world needs many thousands of pilots in the next decade according to both manufacturers. There must be a place for YOU! :ok:

Do KA actively encourage their junior co's / cadets to disconnect the AP and manually fly from ToD - traffic environment permitting of course. As an ex trainer on the BUS my company actively encouraged their trainers to let the cadets manually fly.
I have seen a real reluctance over recent years for pilots to disconnect the AP and fly the jet. I know what the Boeing and Airbus lawyers say, but an over reliance on system automation will erode further the very limited skill base of a cadet pilot.

In over a decade at CX, I have never hand flown from ToD. I can't speak for Dragon Air. I can count on one hand the number of times I have seen anyone at CX hand fly to ToC. I have never done it. Boring and tedious comes to mind. That said, over 99% of all landings are manual, as they should be unless weather or fatigue is a factor.

My past posts hopefully show my disgust for anything the company does. Even if it is something good (which is rare) I still try to put a negative spin on it.

For example, Dan mentions Non-Jeopardy sim. My response would be "Non Jeopardy in Cathay? Yeah whatever mate. Where you been hiding for the past 15 years?"

However, if the N5 is to be axed, I can have nothing against that- I find them to be the most irrelevant exercises in modern day airline flying. Complete waste of money and infinitely worse, a total waste of my time.

Unless someone out there has had to do a FD off Takeoff into a 60degree bank turn just to prove to themselves that back pressure is needed.