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youknowwho 16th Nov 2015 15:58

Yes, Yes, Surely truely the system was absolutely "Normal" my Lord. especially you know, it occurred at RAT only, and the so called Reliability Acceptance Test has nothing to do with the CORE FUNCTIONS.

lepsap 18th Nov 2015 11:14

let me educate the new member: it is just one of the many core functions like what you described as plural. there are many core functions in this rubbish. all these functions are designed to generate workload. no wonder they could sell to india with so many cheap labour. is this system a free gift to india which bought a lot of missiles from this company? :*:eek:

Trafalgar 18th Nov 2015 11:56

Hmmmm, even the written communication is as clear as what I hear on the radio most days. Here is my shocked face :eek:

LapSap 18th Nov 2015 12:29

Indeed Trafalgar.
The vast majority are very good though.
A new record hourly movement today I'm reliably told.


youknowwho; yes, we know who. Give it a rest. Your daily pseudonyms are getting kind of predictable.
Lot of work to be done; but what's the alternative?
Answers on a blue transfer slip please. In triplicate. It's HK you know.
(I swear I saw carbon paper in the ATCX the other day)

youknowwho 19th Nov 2015 12:53

Sure there are a lot work to be done. but by Who? and What?

What about those you paid for, yet end up DIY. Sure that is good training I believe.

Well, Don't just mention India or Dubai here. have a look at NZ, SG, MY. or even Incheon, Chengdu. :}

youknowwho 19th Nov 2015 13:59

It made me wonder, If the new ANC can made to work with the old AT1, why can't AT3 make to work with the other existing subsystems?

Instead of spreading resources all around to build every single piece brand new from scratch and finished in the wrong order, Why can't made AT3 work first?

It is like giving birth, every bits' out, except the head.

youknowwho 20th Nov 2015 13:51

How long has ATCC been completed by now? how long has AT3 been running there?

Have you ever notice how many days ATCC left deserted? how often you found anyone were doing anything there? it doesn't look like there are a lot of work to be done at all.

HK? it is more like another planet

Beholder 24th Nov 2015 09:35

The current setting might not work for lower than current capacity. An arbitrary percentage of reduction might not sufficiently highlight the problems in this new (old, as a matter of fact) system. Aren't you aware of some funny system behaviour that would paralyse the operation during the conversion training? Try to be more vigilant in Module 4 and Module 5. :E

youknowwho 25th Nov 2015 14:17

Right from the Boston days til now.

Adaptation didn't even had the minimum data to activate all major functions and allow more realistic scenario to run.

Yet, the system managed to get pass so many "Acceptance Test".

The Raytheon guys knew you have to accept it, no matter what they throw at you.

The smart people of Hong Kong will just make it work, in 23 months.

TOIL 4th Dec 2015 13:47

Foxtrot.Z, that guy would certainly sleep well as such a person can bring down cad, what else he cannot do for his own goodness. Surprised to know 23 months to complete this project, it must be a myth, a miracle! He must be a harbinger of all engineering works, a model in engineering world. :ok::E

VSD 8th Dec 2015 14:35

23 months completion time for such a complex project must be a new Guinness World Record. Well deserved many promotions!:D

youknowwho 8th Dec 2015 15:04

No, it was well completed since the beginning.

The 23 long months was given just for you old people to take up the new system.

A-GPS 9th Dec 2015 13:44

23 months is very long, we can get a instrument rating.

delay_no_more 11th Dec 2015 11:22

News from HQ, we would use the new system in terminal areas. Can't wait to see this happen soon.

john_null 11th Dec 2015 23:07

TCAS_RA is not something they would care about but earliest use of the new system so that they can escape from ma ma's watching.

john_null 11th Dec 2015 23:12

Well said :ok:


An innovative engineer designed the ATM project to be finished in 23 months won all the prizes.........being promoted three times in a few years' time. He now successfully passes the buck to the users who make all the noises including this one. No ATM system in the world can be completed within 23 months. This crpy system would take 23 years. On behalf of all ops colleagues, thank you for your innovative idea. Looks like you need to invent more pragmatic idea so that the DDGCA post can still be reserved for you. This machine is nightmare to all of us, I hope you share our concern and do not sleep well every night.
He and his bosses should be transferred to look after our high-speed rail project.

youknowwho 12th Dec 2015 05:06


He and his bosses should be transferred to look after our high-speed rail project.
It is the other way around. Every MTR project had similar stories. it is more like they tried but didn't learn properly from MTR. Nevertheless, MTR fired their lousy bosses a lot quicker.

AsPerDesign 13th Dec 2015 11:54


News from HQ, we would use the new system in terminal areas. Can't wait to see this happen soon.
How can we run two different systems with the current manpower?? I still want to take some vacation leave in the first half of 2016.

EARLY-GO 18th Dec 2015 12:21

Can anyone confirm the guy who wrote the procedure is being fired? Hope to see a better writer, the one we are trained on is workload driven. He should be fired earlier.

Chingchung 21st Dec 2015 01:24


This is how dg create his horse stalls culture. He once said to his subordinates "do not 對號入座" but then he creates a bunch of shoe shiner, yes sir, no problem, etc.
shoe shiner.....sounds like someone in project.:E:E:E


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