giggerty,

Your an idiot for picking your start date, how many tristars did KA fly to Taiwan, Malaysia, or China ? I know CX did a lot when they routes were given to them.

The made scramble to get slots in HKG has resulted in a large fleet growth in KA, give you a hint, time to command at CX is 5-8 years higher, pay is lower, 13th month does not appear, no travel fund, and $2000 bonus if you were not sick. Wanna jump on this Air China bus ?

You are so frig-gen short sighted, they are giving the employees SFA, selling off assets like you would not believe to Swire companies with unbreakable contracts that generate massive profits for Swire at the expense of CX/KA.

WHO IS THE FOOL ?

KA was purchased, not merged. They ARE a 100% CX SUBSIDIARY.

Good news is the forecast issued by the observatory talks between CX and CX staff is they will be offered priority 24 on CX and KA for staff, and 25 for companions. Naturally all based on DOJ CX. The forecast is only valid withing 5 decimeters of CX city reference point. The forecast is due to expire in good faith just before the talks in 2035.

:ooh::ooh::suspect::suspect::suspect:D:D:ok::ok::*:*:E:E:sad :sad::mad::mad:

In January 1990, Cathay Pacific, Swire Group and CITIC Pacific acquired an 89 percent
 

In January 1990, Cathay Pacific, Swire Group and CITIC Pacific acquired an 89 percent stake in the airline, with CITIC Pacific holding 38 percent; while the family of the airline's chairman Kuang-Piu Chao reduced their holding from 22 percent to 6 percent, with the remainder held by minor shareholders. The change of ownership saw Cathay Pacific transferring its Beijing and Shanghai routes to Dragonair, along with a Lockheed L-1011 TriStar on a lease basis.

That's TWENTY FOUR YEARS AGO!

404

Yes, so why all the fuss and conspiracy theories that the DPA has tried to shaft the AOA?

I think I know. And that's why my continual position has been to avoid any integration.

There are many arguments for & against integration, but whether you support it or not, the travesty is that we've got partial integration. Most KA ground staff are in fact CX. Not sure about KA cabin crew. And did someone post earlier that any KA pilot joining after the buyout is in effect CX staff??

Gnadenburg

There are some on both sides that quite frankly need to take a deep breath before posting here. I can assure you though that those at the very highest level of the AOA know that the DPA was offered this so called "sweetener" by management to try and get the pay offer over the line. The DPA didn't propose it. It is also a belief by some at the highest levels of the AOA that it is a Swire objective to have a "Group Staff Travel Policy". If this does come to fruition then the staff of the smaller airline in the the group will be shafted. In this case KA. My advise to KA pilots is don't be fooled by the shiny brochure. The devil is in the detail and if CX staff get priority 25 staff travel on KA flights, the majority of KA staff will get scr*wed. Maths unfortunately doesn't lie.