SO Bypass Pay Case
 

On the eve of our long awaited chance to have the SO bypass case heard, I'd like to thank the two plaintiff SOs for the significant time and effort they have both put in over the past 6-12 months.

Regardless of the outcome, I know I speak for all my colleagues when I say I really appreciate you both sacrificing your days off to finally have this case brought before the tribunal.

lmh

Hope enough So's ( and any others crew interested ) pitch up tomo to support - and send a message.

Unfortunately I am afraid as usual we will find more crew in bed, bars or on golf courses than supporting these guys......it's the Cathay Way....

Hopefully there is more than just S/Os that turn up to show support. If this case goes good, then there are others in other ranks that will benefit.

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Good luck, we are all counting on you!

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see you tomorrow

Sad it's the lowest rank that has to do the standing up at Cx.

day 2
 

the hearing continues on tuesday 06/09/2009 at 2:30 p.m.

stop by and show your support!

freightdog188 did you go today?

I'm out of town so can't make it.... any chance of an update on what happened today?

Not a lot, really. no surprise witnesses, no shouting, nobody yelled "...you can't handle the truth!", and the judge didn't have to bang on his gavel for "ORDER! ORDER!!" ;)

There's nothing that I would want to discuss outside of the courtroom and on a public forum at this time, but you certainly didn't miss anything overly exciting.

you can also use this link to look up the time and court room for wednesday, under 'labour tribunal' :ok: ;

Court Lists

Nobody won. Awaiting Judgement.

Case went as follows.

Company defense based on denial and confusion with the following a summary of their main points :

1. The fact that we did not complain in the past therefore we should'nt complain now. ( I am not joking - the company man actually said this)
2. That nobody in management is aware of any contract violations. ( Yes every single management witness answered about 90 % of their questions with: " I don't know/ am not aware" etc etc)
3. That after three days of arguments the company is unable to defend the case since they still don't understand what it is we are upset about/claim.
4. That things are more complicated than we think and therefore it cannot be explained to us or the Judge/court.

Up to the judge to now decide whether random company policies and interpretations that continually change take precedence over our contract.

Any idea on when the judgement will be handed down?
(please, no management like responses!.....I don't know, i am not aware etc)

Last day of the case today..... 1430 at the Labour Tribunal, 36 Gascoigne Road, Kowloon

Now that 9 Airbus JFO courses have been cancelled for August, and that by October there will be only 3 SOs left on BBP, the judgement due on the 3rd July is pretty vital for the financial well-being of many SOs.

Well done Scott, Herman and John Findlay, regardless of the outcome.

'RM

Does anyone know what the purpose of the hearing today was? Did they indicate if there could be an earlier ruling, or if it would be on 3 July? Thanks.

box

Last hearing the judge went through the submissions filed by Scott and CX.
On the 3rd July, Judge will give out a written verdict.
If Scott wins, they'll be another hearing to decide the colour of the money!

Today's the 3rd, what's the word?

We won!

BBP from 18 months.
F/O conditions from 18 months.

Does anyone know if there is going to be back pay, and can someone else please confirm this? Have been waiting a LONG time to hear this news!!

box

It's confirmed. Won 4 out of the 5 points.

It's about time someone gives them a taste of their own medicine.

There sure will be back pay. This was the whole reason for the court case. To get money owing for the difference in S/O and F/O pay. Don't forget the additional stuff that goes with it; housing, holidays, and a whole lot of cash that should have been paid from 18 month onwards.