When is the *$%&#@ ban going to be over??!!
Joined: May 2000
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Ok AACE I'll bite.
Given that the Recruitment Ban is not working and, it appears, will never work why don't you let the new joiners join the AOA and contribute to the cause rather than alienate them and dilute the AOA membership.
Given that the Recruitment Ban is not working and, it appears, will never work why don't you let the new joiners join the AOA and contribute to the cause rather than alienate them and dilute the AOA membership.
Joined: Jul 2001
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From: Down South
AACE. May I ask what exactly is been done? As mentioned by backspace the ban is not working and apart from that it does not appear as if the AOA is doing much. Very difficult to turn down a job when the people asking you to turn down the job are not doing anything themselves. The ban is almost a year and a half old now and doesnt look like coming to an end soon.
Joined: Jul 1998
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From: hong Kong
Full of what though.
Training dept is seriously worried about the standard.
This will all be concluded one way or another at some stage.
That is a given.
Why come now & negate one of the few industrial tools we have to try and get a worth while contract that protects ALL (that includes new joiners).
Don't come here and then start whining a few years later when your being shafted by a new set of managers with a reputation to prove. It WILL happen unless this is sorted now.
Why make it hard for us.
This is more important for you than for me, as you will suffer the rath of these mangers or their successors a lot longer than I will.
Think about it.
Please answer the original question I asked.
Why would you want to come and work for a company that treats it's pilots like crap and will continue to do so until they know they can't.
Why ?
It absolutely mystifies me.
Training dept is seriously worried about the standard.
This will all be concluded one way or another at some stage.
That is a given.
Why come now & negate one of the few industrial tools we have to try and get a worth while contract that protects ALL (that includes new joiners).
Don't come here and then start whining a few years later when your being shafted by a new set of managers with a reputation to prove. It WILL happen unless this is sorted now.
Why make it hard for us.
This is more important for you than for me, as you will suffer the rath of these mangers or their successors a lot longer than I will.
Think about it.
Please answer the original question I asked.
Why would you want to come and work for a company that treats it's pilots like crap and will continue to do so until they know they can't.
Why ?
It absolutely mystifies me.
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From: Boldly going where no split infinitive has gone before..
The same reason you STAY in an airline that "treats it's pilots like crap."
The same reason most of the '49ers want to RETURN to an airline that "treats it's pilots like crap."
It's better than GA and beats the HELL out of unemployment!
The same reason most of the '49ers want to RETURN to an airline that "treats it's pilots like crap."
It's better than GA and beats the HELL out of unemployment!
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Training department is seriously worried about what?????
The intakes I know of personally of in the last 12 months for both FO and SO positions included: 2 A320 Captains with serious jet command time, 4 A320 FO's with again big jet time, 1 767 Captain with 7000 hrs on type, 1 767 FO with 4 years on type, 1 L1011 RAF Captain who also held the rank of squadron leader, 1 747 FO with 3000 hrs on type, 2 RAF Roulettes instructors, 3 767 FO's from Britannia Germany......and the list goes on.
Just how does this compare to the experience levels of the intakes of SO's from 1996-2000 who held Cessna/Beech Baron and Navaho ratings on entry. Granted the GA guys may have been outstanding but please cut the crap. The training department has never had higher quality applicants to work with on the whole for the last 10 years as a result of the downturn in the industry worldwide and our short sighted union insisting that no one come to CX....what a joke.
Obviously AACE you are no trng Captain hence your "intelligence" is somewhat off the ball.
The intakes I know of personally of in the last 12 months for both FO and SO positions included: 2 A320 Captains with serious jet command time, 4 A320 FO's with again big jet time, 1 767 Captain with 7000 hrs on type, 1 767 FO with 4 years on type, 1 L1011 RAF Captain who also held the rank of squadron leader, 1 747 FO with 3000 hrs on type, 2 RAF Roulettes instructors, 3 767 FO's from Britannia Germany......and the list goes on.
Just how does this compare to the experience levels of the intakes of SO's from 1996-2000 who held Cessna/Beech Baron and Navaho ratings on entry. Granted the GA guys may have been outstanding but please cut the crap. The training department has never had higher quality applicants to work with on the whole for the last 10 years as a result of the downturn in the industry worldwide and our short sighted union insisting that no one come to CX....what a joke.
Obviously AACE you are no trng Captain hence your "intelligence" is somewhat off the ball.
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The training department has never had higher quality applicants to work with
Personally, I have already flown with some of your mates. I have my doubts as to their longevity in Cathay as they were clearly out of their depth to the point of being a hindrance.
Joined: Jul 1999
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From: hongkong
Whining??
You guys will be amoungst the loudest whingers when it comes time for an f/o upgrade...ask those in front of you...upgrades 'deferred' for no reason other than paying you 10,000/month less while you remain a jfo..same job less dough! you'll all get yours eventually...the big boys upstairs will crap all over you!!!!
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From: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
The ban is "effectively over" it has never been effective to begin with..the trng dept at CX is comprised of professionals...do what you must based on facts, not what you read on these pages...it s after all...a RUMOUR network..........ok Kaptin M...let's hear it
