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Old 28th Dec 2023, 23:25
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11% cancellation

So CX has a problem on its hands,11% cancellation rate over the festive season. What % capacity are they at now 75%?

Good luck with the post COVID ramp up, seems like a sign of things to come unless a change in strategy is made. Maybe the mainland cadet scheme will be the answer, just takes a few years to happen,,,
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Old 29th Dec 2023, 00:41
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Originally Posted by KABOY
What % capacity are they at now 75%?
The published Nov 2023 traffic figures show CX passenger capacity was at 65% of that for the same month in 2019 (ie pre-pandemic). Those figures don’t include HK Express.
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Quite a few cancelled tomorrow.
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Funny how the word in the street is “it is the pilots” when it isn’t.
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its actually almost impressive how incompetent the management is. way smaller pilot base than pre-covid, people constantly leaving due to a radical change in contracts, people on the airbus maxing out flyable hours, clearly nowhere near enough pilots to operate a seasonal holiday busy schedule and they still will frame it as a "higher than anticipated sickness".

Yeah wow our oracles in management didn't see this coming, shocker.
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Originally Posted by dingodyle
its actually almost impressive how incompetent the management is. way smaller pilot base than pre-covid, people constantly leaving due to a radical change in contracts, people on the airbus maxing out flyable hours, clearly nowhere near enough pilots to operate a seasonal holiday busy schedule and they still will frame it as a "higher than anticipated sickness".

Yeah wow our oracles in management didn't see this coming, shocker.
Exactly - funny how every crew member saw this coming months/years ago, yet the powers that be are scrambling to fix the problem over one of the highest traffic periods of the year. serves them right; feel for the pax and crew
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Old 29th Dec 2023, 09:33
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Selling tickets on non existing flights once again no consequences for any of the idiots involved.
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This is only going to get worse . And Worse
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plenty of pilots out there.. just keep recruiting. its a payrise for them. hahahahaha .....
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20 flights . . . . . 4000 odd people ?!

1300cathaywhathappensnow would be busy . . . . .
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Old 29th Dec 2023, 23:21
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1500 smooth .
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Old 30th Dec 2023, 04:11
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There goes everyone’s pay and bonuses 😂 through no fault of our own. These idiots sitting in management positions
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Old 30th Dec 2023, 06:11
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If CX can't cover seasonal illness then it isn't a crew illness problem, it is a lack of pilots problem (caused by Mis-Management) to cover what naturally occurs.

They have given up on direct entry FOs and Capts - apart from the wrongly terminated returnees, they were only getting aviation misfits. The big push is to recruit and train up SOs, but this will take years.

In the short term the GMO is putting together an application to HKCAD to lift the limit to 1000 hours. They will argue that with the JCR and BAM they can manage the fatigue. Another thing on their side is the complete disconnect between fatigue and its reporting. If you take Controlled Rest file an ASR-F. If you are too tired to do a duty don't call sick, call 'unable fatigue' and file an ASR-F.

If you think 1000 hours will mean more pay, you are deluded. They will adjust the thresholds.
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Old 30th Dec 2023, 07:55
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Originally Posted by Dragon Pacific

Quite a few cancelled tomorrow.
Funny how all the cancelled flights are to places that don’t have stringent consumer laws.

I’ve called in sick because I really want to spend Christmas and new years with family.
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I wonder how this will impact the Chinese New Year period.

Anyone else thinking of taking some golf da…I mean, calling in sick as a personal protest to being treated like a dog ****e for the last 3 years?
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Originally Posted by ZootBoot
I wonder how this will impact the Chinese New Year period.

Anyone else thinking of taking some golf da…I mean, calling in sick as a personal protest to being treated like a dog ****e for the last 3 years?
You probably joined three year’s ago!
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Originally Posted by ZootBoot
I wonder how this will impact the Chinese New Year period.

Anyone else thinking of taking some golf da…I mean, calling in sick as a personal protest to being treated like a dog ****e for the last 3 years?
Dogs got treated better than us the last 3 years, we were nothing more than scourge on Society and the company in HK. We were treated like cockroaches
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo
Dogs got treated better than us the last 3 years, we were nothing more than scourge on Society and the company in HK. We were treated like cockroaches
I agree. I hope that plenty more pilots decide to call in sick over the next few weeks.
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Old 31st Dec 2023, 08:23
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It's not the next few weeks, it's the end of the months that hurt them more and highlight the crewing shortage, pre-CNY golf jaunt anyone?
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Old 31st Dec 2023, 16:56
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Come on guys give CX management a break they have written the terrible treatment of their staff off as learnings!!. We’re all pretty new at this.
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