Cathay DEFO
Joined: Jan 2024
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From: OK
Hi everyone, I have applied for DEFO, completed the DAC form, and had the first online interview. Afterward, I received an email with the medical form and a request for my latest training records, also done. Could someone tell me what to expect in the interview in Hong Kong and in the simulator? Thanks a lot!!!!! 
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From: Utopia
2. They will ask you if you have used PPRuNe as a source of information gathering.
3. If your answer to point 2 was YES, you will for sure be hired. This will be ultimate sign they look for, that you are willing to join one of the most toxic airline companies in the world, despite all the factual information available indicating what a stand out company this is, and you´re still willing to join.
Don´t worry about anything else in the "hiring process". Nobody in that company seems to care anymore. It´s all about management pulling their bonus´ and leaving. It´s a sick airline and it has been like that since 2001 - it only got worse and worse, year after year. Nothing, nada, nichts, left to admire about it! But hey - good luck mate!
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From: The Cloud
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From: The Cloud
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From: italy
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From: Brazil
I applied for DEFO and got the email for the online interview. Got a date and time confirmed , strangely nobody showed up for the interview, no emails or anything from them. I sent a message on their email but also no reply.
Has anyone have had this before? How to proceed?
thanks
Has anyone have had this before? How to proceed?
thanks
Joined: Jan 2024
Posts: 7
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From: OK
I applied for DEFO and got the email for the online interview. Got a date and time confirmed , strangely nobody showed up for the interview, no emails or anything from them. I sent a message on their email but also no reply.
Has anyone have had this before? How to proceed?
thanks
Has anyone have had this before? How to proceed?
thanks
As I understand the order is application , next completion of DAC 607 form next is dates available for the online interview. But may order changes.
good luck!
Joined: Dec 2020
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From: HK
I applied for DEFO and got the email for the online interview. Got a date and time confirmed , strangely nobody showed up for the interview, no emails or anything from them. I sent a message on their email but also no reply.
Has anyone have had this before? How to proceed?
thanks
Has anyone have had this before? How to proceed?
thanks
Joined: Feb 2005
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From: Brazil
i did the application and got the invitation for the online interview.
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From: The Cloud
You will hear back though, especially if they've asked you for a DCA607 and you meet their requirements.
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From: Seoul
Joined: Jan 2024
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From: Hong Kong
13th and profit share not guaranteed, but this year we got both ( ps exact number not yet announced)
No lease required, housing assistance or however it is called these days is yours. 20k (17.5 after tax) will not cater for a suitable accomodation.
Everything the company pays you except per diem and pension contribution is taxable.Per diem depends on the destination, roughly 70-150 USD/day. Schooling expect a short fall of 500-1000 USD per child, inform yourself on debenture rules if applicable.
Hours depend on the fleet. Generally very high right now, some up to max 900. Bear in mind this can change anytime, and crucially the company can lift the threshold for productivity pay at their leisure.
Upgrade to CN depends highly on fleet and whatever number it is be aware this is a snapshot and not a reliable indicator for newjoiner. Airbus currently 6-7, Boeing 747 11. Right now the company is struggling to get back to the pre-covid fleet size, once this has been achieved (end 2025 ish), upgrade time will probably increase again, historically 11-12 yrs ish. SFO could be 2-3 right now, but not sure. In the past 4-5 on average.DFO and DEC are always a possibility.Be aware that assigned fleet is a lucky draw, and that includes later fleet changes and upgrade. It could be the 320, which to my knowledge offers zero productivity pay.
Again, the big risk is the variable factor in our "contract". Productivity pay threshold is completely at their discretion, expect them to ruthlessly adapt it to the current market environment. If at some point in the future they don't have manpower concerns anymore we are sitting ducks.
No lease required, housing assistance or however it is called these days is yours. 20k (17.5 after tax) will not cater for a suitable accomodation.
Everything the company pays you except per diem and pension contribution is taxable.Per diem depends on the destination, roughly 70-150 USD/day. Schooling expect a short fall of 500-1000 USD per child, inform yourself on debenture rules if applicable.
Hours depend on the fleet. Generally very high right now, some up to max 900. Bear in mind this can change anytime, and crucially the company can lift the threshold for productivity pay at their leisure.
Upgrade to CN depends highly on fleet and whatever number it is be aware this is a snapshot and not a reliable indicator for newjoiner. Airbus currently 6-7, Boeing 747 11. Right now the company is struggling to get back to the pre-covid fleet size, once this has been achieved (end 2025 ish), upgrade time will probably increase again, historically 11-12 yrs ish. SFO could be 2-3 right now, but not sure. In the past 4-5 on average.DFO and DEC are always a possibility.Be aware that assigned fleet is a lucky draw, and that includes later fleet changes and upgrade. It could be the 320, which to my knowledge offers zero productivity pay.
Again, the big risk is the variable factor in our "contract". Productivity pay threshold is completely at their discretion, expect them to ruthlessly adapt it to the current market environment. If at some point in the future they don't have manpower concerns anymore we are sitting ducks.
Last edited by Meursault; 7th March 2024 at 00:55.
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Unless you are desperate for a flying job, and hopefully single without kids...then come to CX for a few years. A career it definitely is not. A sadder more depressing airline is difficult to imagine. Tragic in the truest sense of the word.