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More like 50% pilots! - WTF

Old 21st Sep 2023, 17:37
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More like 50% pilots! - WTF

I mean come on!
The spineless jellyfish and his comrades have come up with this great plan to better the lives of the remaining pilots at Cathay Pacific.
Please notice I say remaining pilots. Because only the stupid ones will stay and think this is a good deal. Well, I guess it's a good deal when you work for a company that doesn't give a flying F%$& about you and your family.

I love the line that said something like this: If you lose a flight the company will try "our best" to get you a similar flight in the month. OK, so they call you up on your 5 days off and say. JOJO we have a London for you. Leaving tonight. Firstly will they pay you 5 x G callouts???? Secondly JOJO promised his kid he would take her to get her nails done. Choices choices. They are the kind of choices that could lead to tragic endings.

This has all put a bad taste in my mouth. Chris, why don't you forfeit your bonus this month and tell your handlers that if the pilots lose flights due to anything related to the company, engineering, weather, safe diversions or saving people's lives? "Your Family" of pilots get FULL PAY for what they lost from that flight.
I DARE YOU!

Scenario 1:
So let's say I have a roster with an MMBH is 50hrs. I get rostered for 70. Now screw control take my Johannesburg off me (because Mr BIG DICK wants to fly it)
Now I am below my MMBH and don't get anything.

Scenario2:
Rostered 85 hours for the month. and a typhoon blows in. T8. and bye-bye New York. now I'm sitting at 55 hours and I remember the people who literally tore our contracts apart and asked us to trust them, and they will "try" get us flights to make up for our loss. With the rest of our roster still set in stone for the month, I guess they want us to work on our G days?
Something smells JELLYFISHY here. Will they pay us a G-day allowance? Or do we forfeit this as they helping us out now? AHHHH but they cannot give us flights because your mouth is full. FORCE MAJEURE. BYE BYE 50%
(So no real need for reserve then? Don't be stupid they will have hundreds on reserve who will now never get called off)

Now I honestly don't understand how these absolute idiots think this is a good deal. Are they just trying to make people leave? AHHHH stay for command and let your command course be taken off you for months on end. 50% of nothing.

Every pilot on any shortlist must get out now. Fellow Aussies, Q is calling. My hated Springbucks, get a green card, or right to come to Australia and spring away from this hell hole.

This company cannot ever give us something without taking, WORST of all the heavyweights in CX made sure this was in SCMP today,
WHERE WAS THE STORY ABOUT ONE OF OUR OWN PILOTS WHO LOST HIS LIFE?
Shame on both of you!

But I am sure more resignations will be emailed soon due to this pathetic excuse of getting into the media (Because you cowards don't want to be held responsible for what happened), a tiring 6-month trial. We must have the best people in the world working on the project, or the dumbest.

I'm getting out of this shit show. Before my kids are gonna have a productive schooling ALLOWANCE and penalised for not attending or recalling school fees due to lack of grades.

All of this above has been said in a sarcastic way because CX and the Jellyfish are imbeciles!

Switch the lights off, please, on the way out!
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 22:30
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I laughed at the part of ďa lot of mechanisms are in placeĒ - I.E you made it so convoluted that itís always favourable to the company.

The point is moot anyways, because when itís introduced in January, they would have raised the Min Productivity hours already.
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Old 21st Sep 2023, 23:43
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In the meantime all the Saffas are excited about 6-8 year commands on the Airbus

”Cathay is great…”
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 00:51
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50% of the FO's I know are off to Mrats, I fully understand that.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 04:18
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How come the queue to get into CX still very long ? I wonder...hmmmm. Ahh pilots still not leaving but complaining. hahahaha
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 07:21
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Oh sorry weíve taken that flight off you because the typhoon LAST WEEK caused disruption thatís taking effect now. 😂😂😂 the Americans will be having a laugh. Primary line pay Chris thatís what itís called and itís not the pilots or cabin crews fault so donít punish them.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 11:16
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Originally Posted by cygnet78
How come the queue to get into CX still very long ? I wonder...hmmmm. Ahh pilots still not leaving but complaining. hahahaha
Pretty sure the queue isnít very long at all. Many, many interviews occurring so if you want CX, now is your time.

Lots of people are leaving. You meet lots of CX colleagues at interviews for other airlines at the moment.
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Old 22nd Sep 2023, 21:35
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Jellyfish has been an absolute disaster for all the aircrew
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Old 23rd Sep 2023, 06:12
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Originally Posted by cygnet78
How come the queue to get into CX still very long ? I wonder...hmmmm. Ahh pilots still not leaving but complaining. hahahaha
Because those in the queue have so little experience or such a bad reputation elsewhere that CX is a good option for them. Peoples Department filling seats. This combined with cut training standards and course lengths is an accident waiting to happen.
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Old 23rd Sep 2023, 06:13
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Originally Posted by Avinthenews
Oh sorry weíve taken that flight off you because the typhoon LAST WEEK caused disruption thatís taking effect now. 😂😂😂 the Americans will be having a laugh. Primary line pay Chris thatís what itís called and itís not the pilots or cabin crews fault so donít punish them.
Agreed. Treat us the same as the office workers. Can't work due typhoon - full pay.
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Old 23rd Sep 2023, 09:23
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Bad optics?

2022: Pilot jumps to death, work stress in suicide note.
CX 2 months later, 3.3% pay riseÖ

2023: Pilot hangs himself, work stress in suicide note.
CX 1 week later, roster disruption allowanceÖ

2024?
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Old 25th Sep 2023, 06:35
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It's a good point about Jellyfish making sure this news makes it into SCMP. I was kind of surprised to see it in there, because what's the story? It's such a useless and meaningless allowance, how is that newsworthy?

I can only assume that's the reason they created this allowance. Just to woo the wider public and create the public dialouge that all is well on the Titanic. Its such a theoretical payment, it's like who cares. It does nothing to fix any problems with the variability of POS18.

When Jellyfish is in the video explaining it (with he little background music this time, nice touch) I do really wonder if they actually belive this solves people's problems with the lack of foresight on pay with POS18. If that's the case, well then they are even stupider than I thought.
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