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Old 26th Jan 2023, 12:34
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Choose your fleet any time.

Everyone is flying 80+ hours or minimum hours if you want to commute or travel.

New hosing allowance is great; live in a great place anywhere in the city.

Education and medical allowance are both great too. Your children will grow up healthy and educated.

Come join us, we are the envy of the aviation industry. Pilots and foreigners are made very welcome in Asia’s world city.
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Old 26th Jan 2023, 13:13
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Originally Posted by controlledrest View Post
No ********, only one. At the moment due to my passport and conditions in my home country CX is the best job I can currently get, but I am actively working on my exit.

Yawn! Then stop your complaining. Like I said, always an excuse.
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Old 26th Jan 2023, 13:16
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So if CX is so short of crew, then shouldn't everyone be working to their max? 80h+? ​​​​How come there ar people still making minimum guarantee 50h?
Airbus and 777 guys are not doing much above the threshold at the moment but the 747 guys are making LOTS of $$$$
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Old 26th Jan 2023, 21:06
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Originally Posted by Fac6 View Post
Airbus and 777 guys are not doing much above the threshold at the moment but the 747 guys are making LOTS of $$$$
You might want to check your facts. WB Airbus pilots are pushing 80-100hrs per month. 777 planes had to be parked due to the lack of qualified crew to operate them.
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Old 26th Jan 2023, 21:29
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo View Post
You might want to check your facts. WB Airbus pilots are pushing 80-100hrs per month. 777 planes had to be parked due to the lack of qualified crew to operate them.
I wonder where all their 777 STC’s went? It surely isn’t because of COS18 as it’s a “very competitive contract/compensation package” right guys? Guys…?
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Old 26th Jan 2023, 22:29
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Originally Posted by cxflog View Post
I wonder where all their 777 STC’s went? It surely isn’t because of COS18 as it’s a “very competitive contract/compensation package” right guys? Guys…?
Well depends on who you ask.

If you ask the company, their official stance is, there are multiple reasons why 777 STC left, it can’t be put down to COS18.

If you ask the pilots themselves, they’ll unequivocally state that COS18 was the primary factor they “Moved Beyond”

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Old 26th Jan 2023, 22:42
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Originally Posted by Babyjet_dododo View Post
Well depends on who you ask.

If you ask the company, their official stance is, there are multiple reasons why 777 STC left, it can’t be put down to COS18.

If you ask the pilots themselves, they’ll unequivocally state that COS18 was the primary factor they “Moved Beyond”
It was a tongue-in-cheek comment, I should’ve been more clear lol. I left over 6 months ago when the seniority list was breaching the 2300 levels.
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Old 27th Jan 2023, 02:20
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What fleet are majority of the new DEFOs being allocated these days?
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Old 27th Jan 2023, 05:14
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Originally Posted by CessNah View Post
What fleet are majority of the new DEFOs being allocated these days?
777 and 350
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Old 27th Jan 2023, 06:50
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777 and 350
The odd 747 or 320 here and there?
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Old 27th Jan 2023, 09:26
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Originally Posted by Fac6 View Post
Yawn! Then stop your complaining. Like I said, always an excuse.
It’s quite interesting. Everyone who stays has an “excuse”. Everyone who leaves has a “reason”.

Have a look around you. The only reason you are where you are is that being there is the best option you have right now. Life is full of combinations and permutations and those reasons are reassessed on a daily basis.

Cathay first screwed new recruits in 1993, telling the legacy crew they wouldn’t ever be affected. Sure enough 1999 produced sign or be fired for legacy crew. Then there was the shameful episode of the 49ers in 2001. Followed by rostering agreements torn up, COS08 with HKPA, COS18, closed bases, sign and be fired again, etc. If the reason you leave Cathay is because of the way it treats its employees then you’re not a student of history and probably not in a position to be giving credible employment advice. The one consistency in this airline is how the company treats its employees.

“Stop your complaining”?? Isn’t that what we come on here to do? Do you leave you partner every time you complain about him/her/it? Just because the reasons for staying outweigh the reasons for leaving doesn’t mean someone has to tolerate the status quo silently.

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Old 27th Jan 2023, 10:27
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Nice one.
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 03:33
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Hi

So do you know find out which fleet you are assigned to with the offer? Or the first day of gs? And is that before the signing of the bond. And if you are already type on a fleet will they still bond you?

Thanks
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 10:51
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Originally Posted by Progress Wanchai View Post
Do you leave you partner every time you complain about him/her/it? Just because the reasons for staying outweigh the reasons for leaving doesn’t mean someone has to tolerate the status quo silently.
Sadly, many battered wives go back to or stay with their abusive partner. They have very low self-esteem due to constantly being abused and fear what will they do or where will they go if they leave, and they convince themselves it isn't that bad while those on the outside plead with them to go.

It usually doesn't end well...
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 22:52
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Hi

So do you know find out which fleet you are assigned to with the offer? Or the first day of gs? And is that before the signing of the bond. And if you are already type on a fleet will they still bond you?

Thanks
I think you’re mistaking Cathay for an airline that actually knows what they’re doing SW! At CX the training plan is produced afresh every weekday morning at 09:30, amended 4 times before lunch and filed ‘ in the round file ‘ around 16:30!
If you’re angling at accepting an offer contingent on being assigned to a particular fleet, you’re dreaming, I know personally guys who’ve been pulled off courses just before base training ( the final stage before line training) for a fleet change!
The company will put you where they want you at their sole discretion, some will be lucky, others will end up on the 747! And no, there is no facility to bid to another fleet, EVER! Sounds great doesn’t it!


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Old 29th Jan 2023, 07:28
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Originally Posted by CessNah View Post
The odd 747 or 320 here and there?
74 yes but all the 320 rated are going across to the 350. It's where demand is needed
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Old 29th Jan 2023, 16:19
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R u by any chance from Brazil? If yes, super quick cmd in supersonic speed! If not, hopefully u speak Portuguese or French, will be double quick. Else pls be a FO in HKE FOrever.

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Thank you all for the info.

And does anyone have HKE info on upgrade timeline? If one is willing to make a parallel move?

Thanks
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Old 31st Jan 2023, 12:07
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CX wants you back!

https://pilotcareercenter.com/Pilot-...acific-Airways
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Old 31st Jan 2023, 14:55
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Good luck, unless they offer COS08+ they won't get a single soul. Most have moved over to EK/EY, States on an E3 or back home by now with zero intention to return
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Old 31st Jan 2023, 19:20
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Originally Posted by Arrowhead;[url=tel:11377408
the final line in the application details is brilliant!
  • PCC FORBIDS charging pilots to Apply or Train. Notify us if asked to pay.
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