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Old 23rd Sep 2022, 16:07
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HK scraps quarantine

Surely this is good news for the industry. What is interesting is the fact that over in 'Fragrant Harbour' forum it's not being mentioned. They are too busy bleating and beating each other up.
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Old 23rd Sep 2022, 16:15
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Originally Posted by Maisk Rotum View Post
Surely this is good news for the industry. What is interesting is the fact that over in 'Fragrant Harbour' forum it's not being mentioned. They are too busy bleating and beating each other up.
Their sending condolences to a Pilot colleague who committed suicide. Not sure comes into bleating and beating perhaps you should consider apologising?
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 00:46
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Also no change to crew designation conditions so there is nothing to celebrate.
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Originally Posted by Twiglet1 View Post
Their sending condolences to a Pilot colleague who committed suicide. Not sure comes into bleating and beating perhaps you should consider apologising?
Why you ascribe my comments to a particular thread is beyond me. Suicide is a horrible thing. I never referenced that particular thread or topic. My comments are about the constant bickering on the Forum which Blind Freddie can see. There is nothing but negativity and sniping at each other. I had a wonderful time in HK and have moved on. Surely this is a positive step and if you have been around long enough you would be aware they weren't suddenly going to drop all the stupid rules overnight and turn back the clock.
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Originally Posted by Maisk Rotum View Post
Why you ascribe my comments to a particular thread is beyond me. Suicide is a horrible thing. I never referenced that particular thread or topic. My comments are about the constant bickering on the Forum which Blind Freddie can see. There is nothing but negativity and sniping at each other. I had a wonderful time in HK and have moved on. Surely this is a positive step and if you have been around long enough you would be aware they weren't suddenly going to drop all the stupid rules overnight and turn back the clock.

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Old 24th Sep 2022, 04:12
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Yes, it is obviously good news, but let's not get Stockholm Syndrome. The small print is still a farce and will keep the vast majority of tourists away.
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 07:54
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Also no change to crew designation conditions so there is nothing to celebrate.
pathetic HK gov. When they tighten restrictions for travellers they straight away do the same to aircrew. When they relax restrictions, then the airlines have to approach the government to get restrictions eased in line or better for aircrew
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 08:54
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Originally Posted by Maisk Rotum View Post
Surely this is good news for the industry. What is interesting is the fact that over in 'Fragrant Harbour' forum it's not being mentioned. They are too busy bleating and beating each other up.
This is good news only for the company because they can now pump up the price to certain destinations such as Japan, Korea and other Asian cities and people will still take it. Pilots? Not so much. Nothing changed on the work front and they are still being treated like sh*t. Now you know why no one talks about it here!
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:01
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I'm afraid it will be out of the pan and straight into the fire. Most can see that. Others are excited about some hard earned dollars coming their way. But the money will soon wear off when your eye balls are hanging out of your head at 5 am on your 26th sector that happens to be a min rest two crew back of the clock flight. The long term sickness will continue after a brief respite as the "overworked no life balance phase" beds in, in entirety.
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:05
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Originally Posted by From a distance View Post
Also no change to crew designation conditions so there is nothing to celebrate.
Itís true nothing has changed in aircrew designation conditions yet, but realistically after dragging their heels for a while they will either have to let us out again on layovers, or at the very least let us test and go on returning to HK. What we really need is both, but two and a half years of crushing disappointment are not conducive to optimism, Maisk Rotum (I suddenly see what you did there ).

Anyway, fingers crossed.
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Old 24th Sep 2022, 11:59
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Originally Posted by Bokpiel View Post
Yes, it is obviously good news, but let's not get Stockholm Syndrome. The small print is still a farce and will keep the vast majority of tourists away.
I agree.

I think it is difficult for the Government to see things outside its own small bubble. I say this as a former Hong Kong resident who wishes Hong Kong and all living there well.

Seen from the outside, the idea of in a best case scenario having to take 12 covid tests to visit HK does not appeal. I haven't taken a single test for ages now. Most of the rest of the world has moved on with vaccination and the severity of illness changing the practical reality of living with covid.

In the worst case, if one of those tests shows positive, then my plans are completely thrown in the bin and I may have to face an unknown period in an unknown location separated from my wife who will also face a similar mess as a close contact.

From a tourist's point of view, why take the risk and face all that hassle when most other places don't suffer these burdens?

I appreciate that the HK Government thinks HK is special enough that tourists will put up with this anyway, but I suspect they are wrong. I won't be visiting until all the restrictions are dropped, and as someone with family in HK I have a greater desire to visit than many.

It is, however, good news from the perspective of anyone living in HK, and it does at least show a bit of light at the end of the tunnel for people like myself who would like to visit.

It is, probably though, even better news for Singapore who will continue to benefit from a more progressive view. Until such time as HK takes this long term threat more seriously, it is perhaps doing itself more long term harm than it realises.
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Maybe a tad off topic, but can anyone tell me what the routine is for transit pax at the airport - specifically PEK-HKG-LHR ?
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Originally Posted by Prawn2king4 View Post
Maybe a tad off topic, but can anyone tell me what the routine is for transit pax at the airport - specifically PEK-HKG-LHR ?
Routine? There is none, you just fly to HK transit as normal and then jump to LHR and enjoy freedom. There is the "quarantine" orange zone. But with the new changes I guess they will remove it?
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If restrictions aren't dropped asap, I am taking the next month or two off. I really have had enough. With recent tragic losses there is no push back with crew needing the time off, even from the company doctors. Look after yourselves, no one else will.
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Thanks Rei,
I too would appreciate an update on the transit rules if anyone hears of any changes.
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Yes, thanks Rei ....
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Old 26th Sep 2022, 14:34
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Be aware that you cannot do this on ID travel. Unless you are travelling with a company which gives you both boarding cards at your point of departure. With CX it is a classic "Cannot"

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On a ID ticket can one land in Hong Kong and exit the airport, then board another flight say 1 day later or does one have to wait until the 3/7 days have passed?
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On a ID ticket can one land in Hong Kong and exit the airport, then board another flight say 1 day later or does one have to wait until the 3/7 days have passed?
Have a punt. What do you think ? Whilst CX crews are still locked in their rooms downroute
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Originally Posted by MENELAUS View Post
Have a punt. What do you think ? Whilst CX crews are still locked in their rooms downroute
Well if one cannot get on an outbound flight within the 3/7 days you are not going to get many tourists staying over in Hong Kong. Full Fare or ID.
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