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CN & FO need to volunteer to 747 or they’ll be shortlisted for the next firing plan

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Old 16th Feb 2022, 15:53
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Originally Posted by Smogville
If only they will reinstate housing, they will stop the brain drain.
#CXIT
That might slow it a bit but with the current state of HK I don't even think that could stop the exodus
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Old 17th Feb 2022, 08:52
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Originally Posted by Smogville
If only they will reinstate housing, they will stop the brain drain.
#CXIT
Anything they can possibly try will be absolutely and forever TEMPORARY. This is a permanent consequence of contact cancelation and not ever being able to offer a contract again. Regardless of what language they ever put down on paper to make it look like an actual contract, they have proven once and for all a contract you sign with cathay pacific (or any hk employer for that matter) isn't worth the toilet paper it is signed on. Only the mentally ill or severely desperate will convince themselves otherwise. What little credibility they might have had in the eyes of some was utterly lost as a direct result of unilateral contract cancelation, permanently.

Best they can hope for is to at least temporarily attract more volunteers to operate the airline out of this ditch so they can later worry about how to get out of the next. And that's only possible if what they're offering.is equal to a restoration of salaries to pre-cos18 scales. The math of how it's figured out is irrelevant. Only the amount matters. We all know they won't do this and instead we will all continue to watch this badly mismanaged circus sink further into the abyss, all so the incompetent fools in all levels of cathay management can save face and protect their fragile little self images and egos from reality.

This is a sinking ship. The only decision we all have to make is how long we think we have until it's time to get off, not if. Each individual's decision is personal of course but the facts are the same for all of us. Even if cathay survives, it will never be an employer worth working for except only short term transition purposes.

So no, nothing will stop the exodus. i doubt it will make any difference. The ones staying longer are the ones who are staying due to their desperate circumstances or mental illness anyway.

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Old 17th Feb 2022, 14:06
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Wow, well said VforV.

Couldn't agree more.
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 17:44
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Housing ???

Originally Posted by Smogville
If only they will reinstate housing, they will stop the brain drain.
#CXIT


Obviously time for refresher in the CX "mandatory" Unconscious Bias & Diversity training course
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Old 18th Feb 2022, 23:45
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Well spotted.
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Old 20th Feb 2022, 06:48
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I think you are mistaken Vendetta. Exodus of pilots is the wrong perception.It will be an exchange. Certain nationals out, others in.

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Old 20th Feb 2022, 10:04
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Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong
I think you are mistaken Vendetta. Exodus of pilots is the wrong perception.It will be an exchange. Certain nationals out, others in.
There is an exodus, the road out is filled with experience.

There is no exchange, the road in will be filled with a cultural and experience diversity that in no way can be compared to ‘same kind’

If I was an airline business, I would not be satisfied with the exchange rate.
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Old 20th Feb 2022, 10:28
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Spot on. STW has his head in the sand.

There’s a reason CX has continually recruited from overseas. The talent pool of interested locals is very limited.

So, the exchange only works while the flying task is decimated. CX has massive crewing issues or a much, much smaller airline in the pipeline.
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Old 20th Feb 2022, 10:58
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Who cares in the end.. Larger and older companies have miserably failed in the past due to various reasons and both life and industry goes on without them. Feel bad for people and their families, absolutely the opposite for government and management.
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