ClOSedloop22
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ClOSedloop22
2021 brought us COS18, "sign or be fired".
So what will 2022 bring? Well that should be pretty obvious now. "Closed Loop or be fired".
Concurrently CX will be applying to CAD for "temporary" amendments and exemptions to every part of the current AFTLS so that 2 months flying can be crammed into a 3 week period. These will be granted without exception.
There will be RAT/PCR tests before and after every flight as well as ASR-F to be submitted after every pattern. Any breach of any of these requirements will result in criminal action against you personally as they will be law.
What is also certain is that the penalty for your family will increase. A week in PB for them if you are deemed a close contact. 3 weeks in PB for them if you test positive even if completely asymptomatic.
The Government, the Company, even the HK public, all need a scapegoat. You're it. Good Luck.
So what will 2022 bring? Well that should be pretty obvious now. "Closed Loop or be fired".
Concurrently CX will be applying to CAD for "temporary" amendments and exemptions to every part of the current AFTLS so that 2 months flying can be crammed into a 3 week period. These will be granted without exception.
There will be RAT/PCR tests before and after every flight as well as ASR-F to be submitted after every pattern. Any breach of any of these requirements will result in criminal action against you personally as they will be law.
What is also certain is that the penalty for your family will increase. A week in PB for them if you are deemed a close contact. 3 weeks in PB for them if you test positive even if completely asymptomatic.
The Government, the Company, even the HK public, all need a scapegoat. You're it. Good Luck.
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Unfortunately Cathay Pacific is dead and in the ground. The Government are just waiting to heap the soil on the casket. Huge shame but at least they will get rid of a lot of pesky foreigners with their ideas of democracy, hurrah!
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From: HKG
Just look at the morons falling over themselves to VOLUNTEER even after the forced contract change. When will the pilots ever show any self respect for their colleagues or even more importantly for themselves!
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Thanks for that Globonik. Fac6 doesn’t do irony or perhaps doesn’t realise that the SCMP sometimes refers to Cathay pilots as “foreigners”. Oh well, good luck guys.
Last edited by kenfoggo; 31st December 2021 at 13:51.
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From: Gerloz
So that they can spend the rest of their lives in Groundhog Day ? Without Andy McDowell sadly.
Maybe it’s payback time for Robbens’ Island ?
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From: Hotel
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From: Gerloz
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From: Australia
Look maybe I’ve missed something. I’ve read a lot of comments about how the government wants to shut CX down or TRYING to shut CX down as if it’s some great conspiracy.
My question is, why exactly do you think that? What benefit would there be to the government closing CX?
My question is, why exactly do you think that? What benefit would there be to the government closing CX?

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From: Bottom of the Harbour
Look maybe I’ve missed something. I’ve read a lot of comments about how the government wants to shut CX down or TRYING to shut CX down as if it’s some great conspiracy.
My question is, why exactly do you think that? What benefit would there be to the government closing CX?
My question is, why exactly do you think that? What benefit would there be to the government closing CX?
This is a war against business, not against a single entity. However what does not bode well is that CX is a legacy from a colonial period, something the CCP would like to remove.
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From: Here and Everywhere
So latest update is asking for crew to “seriously” consider volunteering for Closed Loop or EDTF to increase productivity.
When the (GMO) and everyone on the third floor sold our freedoms, well-being and mental Heath to the CHP to keep the operations running, no one will be stupid enough to help them out.
Bring on another round of VSS
When the (GMO) and everyone on the third floor sold our freedoms, well-being and mental Heath to the CHP to keep the operations running, no one will be stupid enough to help them out.
Bring on another round of VSS

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From: Bottom of the Harbour
Closed Loop will be the least of CX worries soon.
Beijing now wanting to punish CX for spreading Omicron will be the biggest threat.
The ‘Operations’ clowns are looking for ‘wetbacks’ to keep a !!!!show on the road.
Beijing now wanting to punish CX for spreading Omicron will be the biggest threat.
The ‘Operations’ clowns are looking for ‘wetbacks’ to keep a !!!!show on the road.
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From: Europe
The jellyfish will be the first ‘casualty of war’ - retiring due to ‘family reasons’.
Can’t wait to see the back of this excuse for a human being.
Can’t wait to see the back of this excuse for a human being.
Last edited by Cury Lamb; 10th January 2022 at 12:25.
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From: Kipling's Twain
These are the new promotions to the Hong Kong Government. Highly respected by president Xi, they have a direct line to him and his thought. Closed loop is the least of your problems.
From Bloomberg.
"Chinese President Xi Jinping has deployed a top Xinjiang police official to command the nation’s army post in Hong Kong, raising fears Beijing is taking an increasingly hard line on security in the Asian finance hub.
Major General Peng Jingtang will become commander of the People’s Liberation Army’s Hong Kong garrison at the request of Xi, China’s Defense Ministry said in a statement. Peng was previously deputy chief of staff for the armed police force in the far Western region of Xinjiang, where the U.S. government has accused China of repressive polices against Uyghur Muslims that amount to genocide. Beijing strongly denies the charge.
China has in recent years installed officials with experience heading crackdowns in key Hong Kong roles. In early 2020, Luo Huining, a Communist Party stalwart known for executing Xi’s anti-corruption campaign, became head of the central government’s powerful Liaison Office in the city. Xia Baolong, known for prosecuting a campaign against Christian churches in Zhejiang province, was named director of the Hong Kong & Macau Affairs Office in the same year."
From Bloomberg.
"Chinese President Xi Jinping has deployed a top Xinjiang police official to command the nation’s army post in Hong Kong, raising fears Beijing is taking an increasingly hard line on security in the Asian finance hub.
Major General Peng Jingtang will become commander of the People’s Liberation Army’s Hong Kong garrison at the request of Xi, China’s Defense Ministry said in a statement. Peng was previously deputy chief of staff for the armed police force in the far Western region of Xinjiang, where the U.S. government has accused China of repressive polices against Uyghur Muslims that amount to genocide. Beijing strongly denies the charge.
China has in recent years installed officials with experience heading crackdowns in key Hong Kong roles. In early 2020, Luo Huining, a Communist Party stalwart known for executing Xi’s anti-corruption campaign, became head of the central government’s powerful Liaison Office in the city. Xia Baolong, known for prosecuting a campaign against Christian churches in Zhejiang province, was named director of the Hong Kong & Macau Affairs Office in the same year."
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From: Central
Just got an email from Debs saying I could ‘potentially’ earn my old salary if I sign up for closed loop duty cycles.
Education, housing, medical and rostering issues will remain the same and all my mates who were on bases who would have made closed loop flying unnecessary can stay fired.
But sure, I’d love to be paid with the money that was forcibly taken from me so I can support HK’s insane zero Covid policy. I also lose sleep at night about huge management bonuses. Speaking of which, when is management reverting back to full pay or has that already happened?
If you’re desperate for $ then closed loop is your only option but personally I’ve had enough of enabling the lunatics who run this asylum.
Education, housing, medical and rostering issues will remain the same and all my mates who were on bases who would have made closed loop flying unnecessary can stay fired.
But sure, I’d love to be paid with the money that was forcibly taken from me so I can support HK’s insane zero Covid policy. I also lose sleep at night about huge management bonuses. Speaking of which, when is management reverting back to full pay or has that already happened?
If you’re desperate for $ then closed loop is your only option but personally I’ve had enough of enabling the lunatics who run this asylum.
Last edited by NewLow; 18th January 2022 at 14:37.




