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Old 30th October 2021 | 02:40
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Who in HK have applied for a visa and have it denied? (exception for based pilots)... No one. Stop spreading fear into people that are about to go through this process. People are getting their visa's. Had a friend get his on the 777 last week!

I really feel sorry for the KA pilots but all their hate towards non PR pilots in HK cannot change this. Deal with it, accept it, be patient and move on. I hear EK is hiring soon
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Old 30th October 2021 | 02:44
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At the moment !! HKE has been given a grace period which expires on the 17th December !!! We will see then !!! And Visas only getting renewed for 6 months unless you are in training which then gives you 3 years !!!
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Old 30th October 2021 | 04:31
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I have never met a pilot with an "exit strategy".

We either jump ship if we see something better, or we get pushed overboard.

To call that a strategy seems a bit inflated.

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Old 30th October 2021 | 08:21
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Or we know when to retire. That I would call an exit strategy ?
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Old 30th October 2021 | 10:34
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Everything points towards around 60-70 people coming up for a visa renewal in February. That should be when the visa renewal extensions end. That combined with the fact that no one on a 6 month visa at UO is being trained makes for a subpar outlook. I have also heard of people having contract renewals to the end of their visa.
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Old 30th October 2021 | 11:28
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Does this apply to the Instagram star?
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Old 30th October 2021 | 11:35
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which one?
the blonde female or the handful of blokes?
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Old 30th October 2021 | 11:38
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A bit like being thrown out of a bar, dusting up in the street and then loudly declaring you did not like the service and you are now leaving for good .
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Old 30th October 2021 | 12:58
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I was talking about UO above but unfortunately the star would have gotten more than 6 months...
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Old 30th October 2021 | 18:03
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Sorry. You’ve lost me there. I got outta Dodge of my own volition some time back. Admittedly I didn’t fancy signing up for enforced incarceration.
Although it would appear that some are quite happy to accept 56 day patterns for the slim chance of getting home for 17 days ( as I assume you’d have to leave early due to a lack of reliable flights ) followed by a further 21 days locked up. Then rinse and repeat. Madness. Just plain bloody madness.
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Old 30th October 2021 | 21:08
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. Seems to me that the guys who quit were the smart guys. The left behinds are the losers. Suck it up.
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Old 30th October 2021 | 22:19
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Rie

I’ve heard the same thing re contract renewals ending on visa dates. Times are changing.

Cathay is changing and so too are the pilots. The days of recruiting foreigners and issuing visas are long gone. Will be interesting to see the outlook in a years time..
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Old 31st October 2021 | 22:19
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Sam Ting Wong

You're just not hanging around in the right circles, obviously! (not that you can know all 3400 pilots).

I know a few who very quietly worked their way "up the ladder" as it were, got a couple of years of training behind them and left CX (still in their 40s) for jobs in their home country. Half the pay, but for a multitude of reasons, it was worth it to them. You could (and might) argue that I cannot know their intentions, but it certainly looked like they had planned it all along.
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Old 1st November 2021 | 02:19
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Hello...

Everyone that wants to leave or is in the process of leaving, why not be like me. Apply for the freighter, get your 747 aircraft rating and then go get a job in your home country.
A free rating
Current

and off you go! Simple as that.

I personally know MANY people doing this right now.
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Old 1st November 2021 | 03:04
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you’d be silly not to! A current 747 rating is worth its weight in gold with how things are at the moment
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Old 1st November 2021 | 04:21
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As one of the YVR pilots kicked to the curb, I can tell you a 747 rating is not worth a sh!t without a US passport to go with it.
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Old 1st November 2021 | 05:11
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cxflog

I estimate my license weighs about 10 gramms, so yeah, sounds about right.
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Old 1st November 2021 | 06:26
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Standby, I’ll go get my scales and we can compare
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Old 1st November 2021 | 07:19
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Jeez. Is that how you do it ? How naive the rest of us must have been. If only we’d known. The goony bird is pretty much a dead duck unless you’re an US passport holder. Or stay in CX and take your chances on it still being there in a year or so. Otherwise limited options in Europe, Oz etc. Gun running in the Dark Continent may be an option. Although you might end up as someone’s home boy in a jail in Kigali. And I’ve heard the medical benefits aren’t quite what they should be. The only useful rating if things do pick up is anything in the Blagnac plastique fantastique range.

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Old 1st November 2021 | 10:35
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Exit strategy . Yes get HGV , Heavy goods vehicle truck driving license as soon as possible. That is where the money is now.. .
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