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35 Sim Instructors Resign

Old 4th Oct 2021, 22:22
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35 Sim Instructors Resign

35 sim instructors have resigned over cuts to their already degraded conditions. Company is considering using FOs to run sims.
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 22:42
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You get the employees you deserve. Who would of thought?
Put the worlds smallest violin on standby for next time you bump into an "overworked" STC.
"Market forces" anybody?
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Old 4th Oct 2021, 23:22
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Good for them. I have learned a lot from you gentlemen over the years, CX was lucky to have such a talented group of professionals with so much experience.

You deserve better.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 01:25
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Now some of the overachieving iCadet FOs are on WhatsApp trying to get info on how they can become a SFI... The cycle continues
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 03:50
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Except one. Karma is Mayhem!
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 03:51
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They don't seem to realise that SIM instructors will be in great demand as the industry recovers and all those recurrencies need doing.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 07:31
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I cant wait to have a 24 year old icadet sitting behind me in the sim trying to teach. I hope you guys like swiss cheese sandwiches.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 10:55
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The freighter Instagram queen will shortly be teaching all of us a thing or 2 soon in the sim. Sharpen up boys!
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 11:03
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Short memories.

Was it not 10 years ago when not a single 747 instructor had actually flown a 747? One of them had never flown a jet.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 11:07
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Of course - we even have some of them in the house now. The Kiwi dude has never touched a 74 in his life.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 13:55
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Good for the instructors standing up for themselves. If more pilots took a stand, aviation would be a better place, (Covid notwithstanding).

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Old 5th Oct 2021, 14:00
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Best to keep your mouth shut and be thought an idiot than to open it and remove all doubt.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 14:02
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First off, is this true? If so, did they do it in unison? And how many did we have to begin with?
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 19:18
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Just as a reminder! There were a lot of utterly, outdated and crappy Sim instructors (Gweilos, minus 1 on Singaporean) back in the 2000-2010s. Not sure if some of those were cleared out over the later years. Just saying.
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Old 5th Oct 2021, 22:02
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No not in unison. The grandfathering of their contract was for 12 months and they have slowly been departing in the lead up to that expiring. Perhaps a sign of things to come in the next 6-12 months as the pilot grandfathering expires.
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 00:39
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"You reap what you sow' ..... springs to mind.
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 00:47
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All of the major union airlines in the U.S. use FOs as sim instructors. Is there some rule against that in Hong Kong?
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 01:03
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A previous company I worked for used Training First Officers for sims - they were all taken upto TRE as part of the job. They were some of the best trainers Iíve had.

It was a good way of nurturing talent early and keeping pilots engaged when time to command was decades.
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 06:02
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Memory lapse


nah can’t be…..

nothing would surprise me anymore
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Old 6th Oct 2021, 06:35
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In some air forces simulator instructing was a punishment tour 😂
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