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How times have changed.

Old 23rd Sep 2021, 18:25
  #161 (permalink)  
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Back of Beyond
Posts: 93
What deja vu and the mole said. Couldn't agree more.

Cathay is but a mere stinky husk of it's former self, and best avoided, lest you catch something from it. It's toxic. Best left to rot in it's festering hole and move on in my humble opinion.
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 03:38
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Join Date: Mar 2021
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From the DFO: "over the past 24 months we have shown who we are"
They certainly have...

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Old 24th Sep 2021, 06:55
  #163 (permalink)  
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: hong kong
Posts: 33
That DFO update made me want to puke
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Old 24th Sep 2021, 11:55
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Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Asia
Posts: 128

Post of the month. Beautifully put.
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 11:23
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Location: Here and Everywhere
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“It takes more intelligence to build than to burn”. The DFO et al, are starting large scale forest fires

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Old 25th Sep 2021, 11:49
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Location: Hong Kong, SAR.
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Are they going to get rid of the new entries on the bottom now, since the 'deal' with immigration is now not being honored?
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Old 25th Sep 2021, 16:05
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Southern China
Posts: 33
What makes you think it isn’t? The ‘deal’ you hung your hopes on was never more than a stay of execution to keep planes flying in the short term. The group has been given sufficient time to get their into a pile so HKSAR immigration policy can return to normal.

Between renewal rejections, returning based-pilot rejections and resignations of pilots unwilling to stay for POS18 in return for at-will employment, they’re going to be scrambling for all the new entries they can find.
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 09:54
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Sam Ting Wong

Greed, well of course, goes without saying. I would have thought deceive, scrounge, mislead, cheat, dishonour and lie were just as appropriate.
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 11:24
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: uk
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That DFO makes me want to puke. There you go fixed that for you.
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Old 27th Sep 2021, 22:42
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: On a few nerves apparently
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 01:39
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The key message from that article is that the Middle East airlines are gearing up for more and more countries allowing free travel again.

Meanwhile in HK…


Expect increased tightening of arrival restrictions - both passenger and crew I’d say 🙄
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 01:56
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Location: On a few nerves apparently
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Nope. You missed the key message.

It's that they're restoring pay and benefits knowing otherwise they can't keep and attract pilots..
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Old 28th Sep 2021, 08:40
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Meanwhile Cx continue their ways…..
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 06:44
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Used to be God's own County
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Haven’t perused Fragrant Harbour for a while but this morning I was surprised to see that people are still flying in Honkers!
Just goes to show how much crap one will take!
this is not a jibe and you have my sympathy - what is happening in Honkers is tragic but - come on - the writing was on the wall 20-years ago.
God speed to you all and here is hoping you find a way.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 08:25
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Join Date: Feb 2021
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there is a way but no one wants to take it because the grass is far from greener. Instead they come on here to b and moan and hope they can pressure enough others leave (apart from actually leaving themselves of course) so that their conditions will magically improve. Then there’s the bunch that pretend they have left cx yet still come on here daily to complain, why would anyone invest all that emotional energy if they have actually left.
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Old 29th Sep 2021, 08:56
  #176 (permalink)  
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Vermont
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Fair question Nobolco and I can only speak for myself.
Even living abroad I still follow the news of my home country.
Same here: still interested and at times even fascinated by the happenings in my beloved city of HKG.
That and to annoy the crap out of STW of course.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 02:14
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: HK
Posts: 4
Can we start hiring keen aviators instead of instagram social media addicts?

Would like to see CX hiring those KA SOs instead of fresh out of the box graduate cadets. At least they know how to fly a plane.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 04:43
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Location: York International
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Their priority is exKA FOs (or any FO) who have been offered or have a job with GBA.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 07:32
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: HKG
Posts: 35
Theyre really dragging their feet over it. I know several who have passed selection and it’s all gone quiet.
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Old 30th Sep 2021, 09:29
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Join Date: May 2012
Location: HK
Posts: 96
several started yesterday
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