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CX aircrew may have to get Covid-19 vaccine if they want to keep their job

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CX aircrew may have to get Covid-19 vaccine if they want to keep their job

Old 24th May 2021, 03:18
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Old 24th May 2021, 18:44
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Cannot, you should have read the entire report.

from that web site:4. Conclusion At the time of this report, over 127,500 people across the UK have died within 28 days of a positive test for coronavirus.

Vaccination is the single most effective way to reduce deaths and severe illness from COVID-19. A national immunisation campaign has been underway since early December 2020.

In clinical trials, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine, COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca and COVID-19 Vaccine Moderna have demonstrated very high levels of protection against symptomatic infection. Data are now available on the impact of the vaccination campaign in reducing infections and illness in the UK.

All vaccines and medicines have some side effects. These side effects need to be continuously balanced against the expected benefits in preventing illness.

Following widespread use of these vaccines across the UK, the vast majority of suspected adverse reaction reports so far confirm the safety profile seen in clinical trials. Most reports relate to injection-site reactions (sore arm for example) and generalised symptoms such as a ‘flu-like’ illness, headache, chills, fatigue, nausea, fever, dizziness, weakness, aching muscles, and rapid heartbeat. Generally, these reactions are not associated with more serious illness and likely reflect an expected, normal immune response to the vaccines.

Cases of an extremely rare specific type of blood clot with low blood platelets is being investigated and updated advice has been provided.

The expected benefits of the vaccines in preventing COVID-19 and serious complications associated with COVID-19 far outweigh any currently known side effects. As with all vaccines and medicines, the safety of COVID-19 vaccines is continuously monitored and benefits and possible risks remain under review.

We take every report of a suspected ADR seriously and encourage everyone to report through the Yellow Card scheme.
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Old 24th May 2021, 19:53
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The UK has a high vaccination rate. You are an absolute moron if you can't see the way out of this situation. It's not about eliminating covid, it's about making it insignificant. 6 months ago the UK was one of the worst affected places on earth.
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Old 25th May 2021, 00:50
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Israel and UK are clearly showing the way forward. Countries late in vaccinating will suffer more deaths and longer lockdowns, or have to remain closed to the outside world in a case like HK.

Either way, once their minds are made up, most people will not easily change their minds no matter how much proof you provide. Form of confirmation bias, I suppose.
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Old 25th May 2021, 02:43
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Perhaps those who refuse to get vaccinated even if given the opportunity, should have a low priority in hospital admission if they get COVID ? ICU facilities are limited and shouldn't be taken up by people who have refused protection, unless vaccination was contrary to medical advice for them.
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Old 25th May 2021, 03:24
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The HK Gov should just come out and say the vaccine is only free until a certain date. After that you pay for it.
Might see a few more locals putting their hand up.
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Old 25th May 2021, 04:10
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Old 25th May 2021, 06:50
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Check out what is happening in Melbourne today.
Yesterday , lots of “we are free of the virus , no need to rush to get vaccinated.”
Today , “ Oh
But its too late now.
Complacency verging on decadence.
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Old 25th May 2021, 22:53
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It’s been shown all over the world for well over a year, what happens when COVID runs unchecked through a country. The USA has had 600 000 deaths and that’s in a developed country with top class medical facilities. In India, people are dying in the streets because oxygen supplies were insufficient, and the death toll there will run into the millions.

Royalty, Prime Ministers and even a US President who is the most protected person on earth have been infected. This is a worldwide major emergency on an unprecedented scale and the normal rules can’t be applied if it’s going to be dealt with in time.

So far, the adverse affects of the vaccine have been minimal and pale in comparison to what would be happening without it. Infection and death rates have been significantly and steadily falling in countries with a high percentage of vaccinated people. These countries have been able to lift restrictions and are gradually opening up.

Subsequent generations of vaccines will be more effective and have fewer side effects, they will be fully tested and safer. Unfortunately we don’t have the time to wait for them and have to make do with what we’ve got.
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Old 26th May 2021, 00:47
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mRNA vaccines have been in development since 1990. It is not a new technology. One of its inherent advantages over traditional vaccines, is the speed the vaccine can be designed and produced, hence the speed in which it could be deployed, especially as vast resources ($ and therefore staff and plant) could be utilized in response to COVID.
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Old 26th May 2021, 03:00
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Yeah , kris , there is one problem with your argument.
You are using logic and reason.
I find it absolutely gob-smacking that anybody who has seen what has happened to aviation during this pandemic would argue the toss over vaccination.
My faith in humanity is a bit wobbly at the moment.
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Old 26th May 2021, 18:03
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Thanks for clearing that up, professor.
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Old 26th May 2021, 19:12
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You’re most welcome, glad to be of help with your confusion!
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Old 27th May 2021, 01:18
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“In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths occurred in the United States (Table). The age-adjusted rate was 828.7 deaths per 100,000 population, an increase of 15.9% from 715.2 in 2019. The highest overall numbers of deaths occurred during the weeks ending April 11, 2020, (78,917) and December 26, 2020 (80,656) (Figure 1).”

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm
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Old 27th May 2021, 02:50
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Chip on his shoulder PC-12 Pilot... Yet another fool thinking that we are all going to be taken over by Microsoft for getting an injection. Also to point out the same person has probably never stepped foot in LKF and has no idea where HK is on a map.
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Old 28th May 2021, 12:39
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If CX wants to get rid of people who refuse to get the jab then I'm all for it. Good riddance.
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Old 28th May 2021, 12:53
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1,835,240,000 doses given as we speak worldwide.
Just do it.
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Old 28th May 2021, 13:23
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This might be a joke to start with but at least it is a step in the right direction...

Senior executives of licensed corporations or their overseas affiliates who are fully vaccinated and meet the eligibility criteria may apply for exemption from the compulsory quarantine arrangements when they return or travel to Hong Kong.
https://apps.sfc.hk/edistributionWeb...JZPXw2yChY_zKo
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Old 2nd Jun 2021, 01:11
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Note the new job adverts - COVID 19 vax required...
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Old 9th Jun 2021, 07:02
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