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CX aircrew may have to get Covid-19 vaccine if they want to keep their job

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CX aircrew may have to get Covid-19 vaccine if they want to keep their job

Old 21st May 2021, 12:53
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it significantly reduces your level of sickness, symptoms and viral load. Thus you are way less contagious to others who might not be able to get a vaccin due to their medical situation. For instance my stepmother.
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Old 21st May 2021, 14:46
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Everything you wrote here is false. Can you cite any reputable sources to substantiate your claims?
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Old 21st May 2021, 14:46
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There in lies the problem! The " me" movement does not want to help because there is nothing in it for them until they catch it . A travel passport and or no entry into a country may change the "me" people . "Me"- children of the magenta line.

pass the popcorn !
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Old 21st May 2021, 15:01
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Or perhaps there is much more to this?

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Old 21st May 2021, 16:17
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Calling it the 'wuflu' says a lot about you. None of it good.
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Old 21st May 2021, 19:25
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I spent many years as a pilot in hk. One of the things I learned was that expat pilots generally resisted change, kicked up all kinds of fuss, and became rather bolshy .But, In the end, 95 % roll over and accept their fate. Vaccination being the case.

Get a life guys, get the jab, and protect your job, your family and the world. Crews, after all, are potentially mega spreaders. Iím on the side of the authorityís for once . Btw I've had my vax.
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Old 21st May 2021, 22:13
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Short answer: Not at all!
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Old 22nd May 2021, 06:41
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If CX had a management that actually did something and wasnít busy running to the 747 they should have bought 6000 vaccins, made available to crew when they came out.
For once Cx would have looked pro active, and the government would have to look at other entities to blame.
HKG and CX are a shitshow, no visa/base closures/closed loop/quarantine 21 days/VSS/no rosters to name a few.
CX is only reactive, and obviously in the wrong way.
Funniest thing, Merlin is leaving because his family wants to go to the UK.
In the meantime he f....d over multiple families on bases and HKG because of base closure and cos 18.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 06:50
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You have to catch the virus for vaccines to work.

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All vaccinations teach various type of immune system in your your body to recognise a disease causing agent, e.g. a virus so that it can be attacked next time.it is encountered. It sounds like you would agree with that.

But no vaccine prevents you catching a disease. The immune system is internal. So of course you need to internalise, that is catch, the virus for the immune system to start working in response. The whole point is that when you do catch the virus the trained immune system stops it multiplying as fast, keeping the infection to a manageable level. So you don't get ill - leaving the perception that you have not caught the virus. When in fact you did, but fought it off. Then as immune cells multiply in response to the infection, they overwhelm and eliminate the virus.

​​​​​​So these are just as much a vaccine as any other you have ever taken.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 06:56
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You’re trying to bring far too much reason in to this forum.
The tin foil brigade just don’t get it.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 07:05
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Yes, dear Sir, please stop with your pesky logic, rationality and science, and let this forum get back to what it does best.

Now, where’s that popcorn...
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Old 22nd May 2021, 09:07
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I am not sure about the airlines but that definitely happened with the NZ border protection/security at Auckland airport. The staff were told either to get a jab or sorry but we thank you for your time.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 10:21
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True - they weren't forced, but their role was deemed to require vaccination, and no alternative posts were available, so a couple of anti-vaxxers made themselves redundant. Their choice.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 11:19
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I am not sure about the airlines but that definitely happened

Even with my Middle Eastern airline, it's take the vaccine or lose your job. I totally agree with that position. Before modern vaccines life expectancy was 35 years. Do we want to go back to those days?
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Old 22nd May 2021, 12:02
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https://coconuts.co/hongkong/news/pe...cinated-staff/


Peninsula Hotel offers HK$2,000 bonus and paid holidays for vaccinated staff
CX cabin crew next?
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Old 22nd May 2021, 14:07
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They won't spend a single dollar to get the crew to have the jab. Better removing them and saving the money. The fear alone will cause the others to rush to the vaccination centres.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 14:32
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Ha! CX will only offer money when they’re backed into a corner (ie closed loop). What they’re going to do now is they’re going to fire crew who don’t get the vaccine before a certain date.
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Old 22nd May 2021, 14:35
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I donít really want to fly with unvaccinated crew..

there, I said it
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Old 22nd May 2021, 19:57
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Oasis, why not if youíve had the vaccine, surely thatís the whole point in taking it right? Or does the vaccine only give you immunity if you catch the virus from another vaccinated individual? Iím intrigued to hear your logic

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Old 22nd May 2021, 20:45
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I'm with Oasis, not because I am worried about catching the virus, because the selfish sitting next to me is one of the people who caused this to drag on longer than necessary, one of the people who caused more people to lose their jobs, one of the complete who thinks it's ok to just wait for everyone else to step up, whilst more and more families futures get ruined. I wouldn't want to fly with someone who was not vaccinated, because they are a selfish ****.
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